What Is The Soul?

David Henson said:
Would you agree then, that through Adam sin entered the world and that sin equals death and that Jesus takes sin away so that there may be everlasting life?
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That is just so silly in so many ways.

A so-called god makes a human, and it is the human that makes sin not the so-called maker. I didn't know we were so-called gods.

Paul

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David Henson said:
What is sin? What is a god?
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Which so-called god, there are so many on this planet. You're so-called god is the maker of all things, so yes, the maker of sin. It is only you guys that don't see that. Stop kissing up to the big sinner.

Paul

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Brian-M said:
For example, in 1 Corinthians 15:4-6, after the resurrection Jesus is supposed have been seen over 500 people at once. A few eyewitness accounts would be a good start at demonstrating historical accuracy.

But you need more than that to demonstrate the supernatural element...
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Could you epand on this? Are you saying that 500 witnesses wasn't enough but maybe 700 would be?

Brian-M said:
Excellent! If true believers can safely drink poison that would kill an ordinary person, you have a repeatable scientific test that can be used to demonstrate the truth of The Bible.

In fact, any repeatable test of claims in The Bible that cannot be explained by science would be very good evidence of the truth of The Bible.
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I'm not a scientist. If you are then I suggest you get busy testing it. Mark 16:8-20 are spurious.

Brian-M said:
Evidence is not the same as proof. Being caught standing over a freshly murdered person with the murder weapon in your hand is very strong evidence for you being the murderer, and that evidence is objective fact, not subjective opinion, but it is not proof that you committed the murder. I'm only asking you for evidence that the supernatural claims in the Bible are true, not conclusive proof.
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We are talking about the soul here. If you want to discuss the above start a new thread and I will get to it when I have dealt with these.

Brian-M said:
The only way to make a case for a lack of evidence of anything would be by not making a case at all. If you actually wanted to do the trial thing, it would be "Evidence Supporting The Bible" versus "Evidence Contradicting The Bible". The case for a lack of evidence would be irrelevant to either side.
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Exactly. Then do it.

Brian-M said:
You're here trying to convince us of your point of view, it's up to you to provide an argument to support it. If one of us were to start a thread about the nonexistence of the soul (or the falsity of The Bible) it would be up to us to provide an argument to support our opinion.
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I am here to discuss what the Bible says about the soul.

Brian-M said:
But don't expect your personal experience to convince us that it's real any more than the personal experience of a UFO abductee would convince us that flying saucers and little gray aliens with anal probes are real.
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Why do you people keep saying that I am here to convince you of something. I'm trying to have a discussion about what the Bible says about the soul.
 
And if sin was brought about by the Fall, why wasn't it erased by the Redemption?
 
devnull said:
I do. Or at the very least, mentally deficient.

I am enjoying David's accusations that you are simply seeking confirmation of preconceived notions though..... from a YEC, that's comedy gold.
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First you demand that I prove the immortal soul exists after I post that the immortal soul doesn't exist and now you say I'm a YEC after posting in my other thread about 7 days which denies the YEC theology.

Would it be too much to ask that you should please keep quite if you are so obviously not only indoctrinated into your paradigm but incapable of having an intelligent discussion without making such stupid assumptions?
 
Paulhoff said:
Which so-called god, there are so many on this planet. You're so-called god is the maker of all things, so yes, the maker of sin. It is only you guys that don't see that. Stop kissing up to the big sinner.

Paul

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Preacing to the chior again.
 
David Henson said:
Would you agree then, that through Adam sin entered the world and that sin equals death and that Jesus takes sin away so that there may be everlasting life? Are you familiar with the scripture that says once you die your debt of sin is paid? So in sin you die, but may live again. Also, are you familiar with the idea that the dead should bury the dead? A spiritual death. God is a god of of the living though they are dead and the spiritually dead bury the physically dead, no? Do you understand?
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You seem to be skipping and it seems to be off your own topic.

You claimed that according the the Bible the soul (nephesh) is mortal and dies.

Do you accept that you were wrong about this and that even the Old Testament claims that the soul might be immortal?
 
Now, how many times do we hear about this immortal soul. Now we have one talking about it not being immortal, I sure wish they would all get on the same page.

And they all like to say, they got it right, it is the other guy that has it wrong, geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Paul

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David Henson said:
First you demand that I prove the immortal soul exists after I post that the immortal soul doesn't exist and now you say I'm a YEC after posting in my other thread about 7 days which denies the YEC theology.

Would it be too much to ask that you should please keep quite if you are so obviously not only indoctrinated into your paradigm but incapable of having an intelligent discussion without making such stupid assumptions?
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I never asked for proof of the immortal soul. I merely asked you to define the soul, and you continue to equivocate.

If you are not a YEC, how old is the earth? do you accept the prevailing scientific view that it is billions of years old?
 
David Henson said:
You quoted me, while preaching to the choir. You appear to me like somone who is very insecure and needs constant slapping on the back.
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No need to preach, that is your job. Now which so-called god, and if this god is the maker of all things, it made sin, how don't you see this unless you are just kissing up to this so-called god you believe in.

Paul

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devnull said:
I do. Or at the very least, mentally deficient.

I am enjoying David's accusations that you are simply seeking confirmation of preconceived notions though..... from a YEC, that's comedy gold.
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I will agree he seems deficient in the concept of a "public forum for skeptical thinking". How many people has he asked now to shut up, or back off, or to stop asking questions? Sweet Jebus Bobby Christmas.

David Henson said:
You quoted me, while preaching to the choir. You appear to me like somone who is very insecure and needs constant slapping on the back.
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Wow. The very definition of projection bias. It's like watching that picture perfect special effect executed flawlessly in a movie.
 
Paulhoff said:
No need to preach, that is your job. Now which so-called god, and if this god is the maker of all things, it made sin, how don't you see this unless you are just kissing up to this so-called god you believe in.

Paul

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Everytime someone asks him about god, he gets upset. He's not here to talk about god ... only the Bible, god's word, the soul, JW doctrine, true faith as opposed to apostate Xtianity, etc. But not god.

I thought Rorylee had his own Fight Club rules, but I think there's a new guy in town:

The first rule of the Blood Soul Bible Club is: do not ask about the God of the Blood Soul Bible Club.

The second rule of the Blood Soul Bible Club is: DO NOT ASK ABOUT THE GOD OF THE BLOOD SOUL BIBLE CLUB.

The third rule of the Blood Soul Bible Club is: shut up and listen and do as your told in the name of God ...




ETA: And David, I'll leave your thread alone now like you asked. But you did respond earlier inviting me back in :). And no, I'm not targeting you only. Get over it. Enjoy your game.
 
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And everyone of these guys thinks that they have it right and they can make others believe in their vision. Like I have said many times, I was seeing thru this BS at seven, I never bought into the Jesus stuff, what the hell makes them think that I, now an adult, will buy into it now.

Paul

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