What Is The Soul?

David Henson said:
I understand that the atheist sense of reality seemingly depends upon the idea that if you repeat something often enough it is true as long as the atheists believe it but that doesn't jive with me, dig?
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Boy, do you have that wrong.

We said that repeating something often enough DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE, not the other way around like you just wrote. You are the guys that think that, and also you think if you reword it you can make it true.

Sense of reality, you should talk.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
So a baby has sin, that is just so sick.

Paul

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Off-topic, but in his Confessions, Augustine discusses why children, especially babies, actually reveal themselves to contain evil. In fact, his argument is that babies are harmless (innocent) only because they are weak, not because they are good.
Augustine said:
The weakness of little children's limbs is innocent, not their souls
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With the exception of lust, one can easily point to instances of babies engaging in all the other cardinal sins. Just something to think about, I actually chuckled a few times reading Augustine's reasoning ;), but had to admit he had a point.
 
Augustine said:
Off-topic, but in his Confessions, Augustine discusses why children, especially babies, actually reveal themselves to contain evil. In fact, his argument is that babies are harmless (innocent) only because they are weak, not because they are good.

With the exception of lust, one can easily point to instances of babies engaging in all the other cardinal sins. Just something to think about, I actually chuckled a few times reading Augustine's reasoning ;), but had to admit he had a point.
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Well, it seems that Augustine does not sit very high on my list of good humans to know, most likely down here at the bottom, gee, he just fell off of the good list.

Paul

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David Henson said:
Before he appeared to the 500 he appeared to the 12, including 3 of the writers of the gospels. There are your eyewitnesses. In the Hebrew law in order to condemn a man to death you needed at least 2 witnesses. You have three.
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Three? Which three? If (and it's a big if) you assume that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John actually wrote the gospels attributed to them, then two of them were disciples. Who was the other eyewitness?

David Henson said:
The Codex Regius...
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For a second I though you were talking about the Poetic Edda, and I got all excited, thinking we were going to talk about a fun collection of religious works written at different times by different people.
 
Paulhoff said:
Yes, science does not acknowledge things without proof, next.
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Science would not be dogmatic if it had the proof.
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Just for the record, that should be evidence (more or less conclusive), not 'proof'. Science does not deal in proof - although it does deal in disproof, hence falsifiability.
 
dlorde said:
Just for the record, that should be evidence (more or less conclusive), not 'proof'. Science does not deal in proof - although it does deal in disproof, hence falsifiability.
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I have to keep is simple, remember who I'm talking to.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
I have to keep is simple, remember who I'm talking to.
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I understand, but it wasn't a simplification, it was crucially incorrect - a bit like saying the darker moths evolved so that they would be better camouflaged, or in order to hide from birds more effectively. It may seem a subtle distinction, but it makes all the difference.
 
To answer the question:

The "Soul" is the term for those things we do not yet understand about what makes people who they are. It is not some immortal thing that remains after people die.
 
Paulhoff said:
Well, it seems that Augustine does not sit very high on my list of good humans to know, most likely down here at the bottom, gee, he just fell off of the good list.
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Well, he has been dead well over 1500 years. I'm not sure if that is a consideration for your list.

At any rate, his reasoning reminded me of why It's a Good Life would probably be a more accurate scenario if a baby had supernormal powers (as opposed to the Ma and Pa Kent experience). :p
 
dlorde said:
I understand, but it wasn't a simplification, it was crucially incorrect - a bit like saying the darker moths evolved so that they would be better camouflaged, or in order to hide from birds more effectively. It may seem a subtle distinction, but it makes all the difference.
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Geeeeeeeeeezzzzz

ev·i·dence

1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

Paul

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I get frequent nosebleeds and the other night I bleed all over my pillow in my sleep. Here's a pic I took because it looked so "graphic":

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I feel as though I lost a little of my soul that night ....
 
David Henson said:
Yes. Resurrected. All sin, so all die. Those who turn away from sin as much as is possible have the possibility of resurrection where death is no more.
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And in the context of that passage, that which does not die is the soul (nephesh).
No, he didn't get better, he came back in another body which is why it was difficult for some of the people who he had known to recognize him.
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I didn't say his body got better - I said he did.

Unless you are saying the resurrected person was not Jesus at all.
If he simply got better what then became of him and what point would it have been to sacrifice a body that you are going to take back in three days?
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Why was it a sacrifice at all if he simply swapped bodies? What is a corporeal body to a God?
 
Paulhoff said:
Geeeeeeeeeezzzzz

ev·i·dence

1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

Paul

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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm being pedantic. Evidence == proof.
 
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trentwray said:
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Your soul is all over the pillow.

ETA: Which reminds me that the souls of women are unclean at least during that time of the month.
 
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David Henson said:
I understand that the atheist sense of reality seemingly depends upon the idea that if you repeat something often enough it is true as long as the atheists believe it but that doesn't jive with me, dig?

The blood is the soul, the life. In a basic sense. It isn't immortal according to the Bible. It isn't the spirit.
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But if you quote the babble at us often enough,we have to believe you?
 
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