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"What is JREF" - Hilarious

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So I just stumbled across this.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1640

It seems like there is a reluctance to even listen to our arguments. A lot of warnings of "do not go there" etc.

One of them does state, however, that they shouldn't be afraid of coming here because:

Besides, we shouldn't be afraid of the evidence that they bring to the table. We got ironclad evidence that it was an inside job. The free fall argument.
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The funniest thing about that is the simple fact that the speed the tower fell at doesn't prove either way who did it. What is even more hilarious about this is they seem to think that the debris falling around the tower was falling much faster than free fall. I say this because if the tower is falling at freefall the debris we see here must be going at lest 1.5x freefall.

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But the best part is this quote from Killtown:

I think Obi-wan said it best about JREF:

"You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"


They are a cultist skeptics forum, specializing in debunking paranormal claims.
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Right away followed by:

All they do is insulting ppl.
they never come with real evidence.
I'd rather be Locked up with those throat slitting terrorists, then with JREF.
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Irony? Hypo-criticism?

Does anyone else get the impression from these guys that they think 9/11 is all about them? About proving that they are right and that we are wrong? They care less for proving their point than they do for ignoring the counter arguments and insulting the people who give them.

All they have against us are insults, arguments against preliminary findings, and arguments against outragously silly things like the "pull it" quote and the free fall fallacy.Then they have the nerve to say insults are the basis of our arguments? This makes me sick. I just wish they would listen to what we're saying.
 
You've gotta love guys that dumb.

We're a "wretched hive of scum and villainy." We're a bunch of "cultist skeptics." We're worse than "throat-slitting terrorists." And all we do is insult people.
 
"cultist sceptics" ?!?!:)



Its all that damned educashun, makin' us too smart
 
PerryLogan said:
You've gotta love guys that dumb.

We're a "wretched hive of scum and villainy." We're a bunch of "cultist skeptics." We're worse than "throat-slitting terrorists." And all we do is insult people.
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I think "Skeptical Cultists" would have had a nicer ring to it.

Did they really say "worse than throat-slitting terrorists?" I thought there were no throat slitting terrorists? Now I'm confused.
 
valis said:
I think "Skeptical Cultists" would have had a nicer ring to it.

Did they really say "worse than throat-slitting terrorists?" I thought there were no throat slitting terrorists? Now I'm confused.
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I think he just slit his own throat. Reasn wise that is.
 
valis said:
Did they really say "worse than throat-slitting terrorists?" I thought there were no throat slitting terrorists? Now I'm confused.
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Well obviously there are no throat slitting terrorists. Therefore, by actively promoting disinfo, we are worse than the non-existant throat slitting terrorists.

Or something.
 
It is the common argument made against those with whom he has gotten nowhere. If you can't convince them...insult them.

TAM
 
jack chit said:
rikzilla said:
Critical Thinking:
Critical thinking consists of a mental process of analyzing or evaluating information, particularly statements or propositions that people have offered as true. It forms a process of reflecting upon the meaning of statements, examining the offered evidence and reasoning, and forming judgments about the facts.

Critical thinkers can gather such information from observation, experience, reasoning, and/or communication. Critical thinking has its basis in intellectual values that go beyond subject-matter divisions and which include: clarity, accuracy, precision, evidence, thoroughness and fairness.
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You mean nit picking....
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:D

OMG, that thread is hilarious.
 
I think Obi-wan said it best about JREF:

"You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"


They are a cultist skeptics forum, specializing in debunking paranormal claims.
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I'd rather be Locked up with those throat slitting terrorists, then with JREF.
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That would make a really good zogby poll....LC idiots :)
 
The most disturbing thing is that a lot of those people vote.

Some have jobs where they may actually be in a position of responsibility, and have to exercise good judgement.

That really is frightening.:jaw-dropp
 
Obviousman said:
The most disturbing thing is that a lot of those people vote.
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I really doubt it. Most of them sound like those guys who can't be bothered to vote, but still want to whine about who's running things.

After all, why vote when all the candidates are owned by the Illuminati??
 
Axiom_Blade said:
After all, why vote when all the candidates are owned by the Illuminati??
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Imagine if a 9/11 Truth candidate got voted in for President. What do you think Alex Jones reaction would be? I can imagine he would be thinking "Oh crap now I'm out of business..." but he would be saying "He's an NWO agent who's been planted in our organization!"
 
doctorfungi said:
Imagine if a 9/11 Truth candidate got voted in for President. What do you think Alex Jones reaction would be? I can imagine he would be thinking "Oh crap now I'm out of business..." but he would be saying "He's an NWO agent who's been planted in our organization!"
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I don't know, I'm pretty sure the fellow Killtown is endorsing could keep the crap stirred up:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1817

Just take a look at his platform:

http://chapmanforpresident08.blogspot.com/2006/07/gene-chapmans-platform.html


I) Appoint a White House Commission to examine the "9/11 Controlled Demolition Evidence," as such prominent credentialed experts/ professors are now demanding this attention. (MIT Doctoral Candidate Rick Rajter: Campaign's "9/11 Advisor").
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And that's not even the nuttiest suggestion:
J) Do away with the Death Penalty and replace it with a policy of removing the convicted criminal's body parts (all or some) that were involved in the commission of a violent crime, releasing the person back into society once healed. (Judges will have great discression in this approach, ending the torture of long jail terms, as well.)
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M) The King Solomon Solution: As King Solomon proposed the division of the item in dispute between two people while allowing neither the upper hand, so I propose that the international community buy out the Jews and Palestinians and move their land on barges to opposite ends of the earth to shut down the conflict. This will allow a two state solution at a distance. It is the only solution short of unending war between the parties that does not seem to me to violate the religions of any party.
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Y) The Five Senses Plan: I propose that any American public servant, elected or otherwise, found guilty of imposing one or more of the ten planks of "The Communist Manifesto" upon another uncondemned person shall have all five senses removed, allowed to heal and returned into society.
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And you thought GWB's foreign policy was wonky?

S) The Checkerboard Plan: If a world conflict is serious enough to risk the life of one American footsoldier, it's big enough to use a nuclear bomb, I say. Therefore, I propose to call our troops home from the 130 countries around the world where they are now, reassign footsoldiers to other jobs and form a global nuclear web, allowing the President and other top military personel to target and destroy 50 square mile areas of the planet, when absolutly required to stop a larger problem. (This should all but end low level conventional tinkering by the U. S. Government around the world.)
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And I figure Alex Jones could be Dean of this school:

Z) Charter the American Libertarian University in Austin, Texas.
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He wouldn't even have to move!
 
This may not be exactly the right thread for this comment, but it's been percolating in my mind, and this book which I saw at Borders today crystallized some thoughts I've been having.

It seems to me that the 9/11 "truth" movement could possibly be a deep-seated emotional reaction to Muslim extremism, a sort of "reaction-formation" that mimics that which it denies.

As the Wahabis and the Shia extremists proclaim that they are right just because they say so, the 9/11 "truthers" proclaim they are right just because they say so. They see enemies everywhere. They concoct fantasy scenarios in which they (or all Americans) are the victims of powerful evil forces, just as many young Muslims are indoctrinated into believing themselves the victims of larger forces (America, Russia, etc.) in the world.

I don't want to take this analogy too far, but it just seems to me, if the terrorists wanted to replicate certain memes in our culture, they may have succeeded in the 9/11 "truth movement."

Just MHO.... worth what you paid for it.

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