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What is a truther?

A 9/11 truther is one who identifies with the 9/11 truth movement or supports one of the many objectives that involve exposing whatever coverup there's supposed to be for the 9/11 attacks. AE911, and a number of other subgroups seem to use the "truth" name in their acronyms with pride. I can't see why red or anyone else would be ashamed of being called "truthers" if their supposed objective is to show the so-called official story is false. If this grassroots movement is to make progress, I'd say they should be proud of having the derogatory label from detractors, not embarrassed. Of course all that's relative when in most cases the claims of the grassroots movement are totallt unscientific.
 
RedIbis said:
Furthermore, labeling is a cheap rhetorical tactic that's rejected in any reputable debate or debate forum, except for jref, apparently.
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Like I referred to above, what your detractors use the label for shouldn't be your concern. The truth movement is an actual movement regardless of its' credibility. If it advances theories or agendas that you would readily support then you should have no need to cast it to the side in shame. "Truther" is an adjective anyway, that's valid for describing for example, how you espouse certain theories like controlled demolition, or no-planes
 
RedIbis said:
Truther is a prejorative to conflate all skepticism toward the official story under a tidy banner that holds the skeptic responsible for any and all assertions by anyone else skeptical of the official story.

Furthermore, labeling is a cheap rhetorical tactic that's rejected in any reputable debate or debate forum, except for jref, apparently.
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A truther is someone who insists that there was "no discernible inferno" in WTC7 in defiance of all photographic and video evidence and firefighter testimony.
 
Judging by what I have seen here a truther is a person with almost no education.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
A truther is someone who insists that there was "no discernible inferno" in WTC7 in defiance of all photographic and video evidence and firefighter testimony, and forensic evidence.
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Ftfy, since
Truthers like to ignore that too
 
trustbutverify said:
A brainless twat?
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Intellectually dishonest?

Or just dishonest?

Sword_Of_Truth said:
A truther is someone who insists that there was "no discernible inferno" in WTC7 in defiance of all photographic and video evidence and firefighter testimony.
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Pedantically speaking, that is a truther, yes, but not the definition of one. The definition includes people who think said fire was set by space lasers.
 
Truther stands for the truth in the same way that Pravda did or Orwells "Ministry of Truth" did in 1984 or indeed the "I am the way the truth and the life" in the Christian Bible.

Its to add a veneer of respectability to a lie. Which is why I always use the Twoofer, since as can be seen by reading any of the 911CT theads on JREF they either cannot or will not see any truth that does not fit their faith.

Twoofers are simply non theist religious nuts
 
Has anyone ever seen the term Truther used in the media in a way that is NOT pejorative in its connotation? That's why I don't use the term. I totally disagree with 9/11 Truth theories but even I would rather use a term like 9/11 Truth activist.
 
chrismohr said:
Has anyone ever seen the term Truther used in the media in a way that is NOT pejorative in its connotation? That's why I don't use the term. I totally disagree with 9/11 Truth theories but even I would rather use a term like 9/11 Truth activist.
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They came up with the name. The "pejorative connotation" came from their actions.

How often have you seen a "truther" actually look for the truth?

Do you think Gage is looking for the truth or just trying to sell his version?
 
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chrismohr said:
Has anyone ever seen the term Truther used in the media in a way that is NOT pejorative in its connotation? That's why I don't use the term. I totally disagree with 9/11 Truth theories but even I would rather use a term like 9/11 Truth activist.
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A mature and responsible position, one that will lend credibility to your analysis since you are obviously avoiding labeling or any other transparent strategy that takes the focus off of your findings to attack the opponent. Although I don't think that everyone who questions the official story is necessarily an activist, but it's a step in the right direction.
 
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chrismohr said:
Has anyone ever seen the term Truther used in the media in a way that is NOT pejorative in its connotation? That's why I don't use the term. I totally disagree with 9/11 Truth theories but even I would rather use a term like 9/11 Truth activist.
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Sitting behind a keyboard is being active?
 
Originally Posted by RedIbis
Truther is a prejorative to conflate all skepticism toward the official story under a tidy banner that holds the skeptic responsible for any and all assertions by anyone else skeptical of the official story.

Furthermore, labeling is a cheap rhetorical tactic that's rejected in any reputable debate or debate forum, except for jref, apparently.

From WTC Dust: Do you know of any other debate forums that frown more heavily on
these tactics than JREF? Serious question, btw.

RedIbis and WTC Dust, an ex-Marine and 9/11 Truth activist is working closely with Richard Gage to put together a two-column template for respectful debate of my 235 YouTube reasons for natural collapse. The left column will have my reasons and the right column their responses. We'll see how it goes. So far there's JREF and Jeremy Hammond's blogs and the ScrewLooseChange blogs. We'll see if this new website will be evenhanded; so far it looks like it will be.
 
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