Horatius
NWO Kitty Wrangler
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You also have to leave room for a counter argument. If a person tries to counter an argument that is said to be proven wrong, that is not sticking with it regardless, that is debate. In a debate somebody wins somebody losses. You kill debate by saying "they are proven wrong and stick with it", but if they have further arguing points that contradict yours then they should stick to it. If it was a debate on anything else it is ecceptable, but when talking about conspiracies it is not ecceptable?
If there is still evidence outstanding that hasn't been considered, then we haven't "won" any debate, and we shouldn't be coming to conclusions in any case, except maybe some tenative conclusions.
The problem here is, there doesn't seem to be any such outstanding evidence. We've heard pretty much all of it, and it's unlikely that efforts by laypeople will produce any new evidence. If you think you do have some evidence which has not been considered, that's a different topic. But don't just assume we've missed it, do a search, and try to find out if it's been discussed. If not, great, bring it out and let's see it.
One big reason we get annoyed at new people here is because they often come in acting like they have the greatest evidence of all time that will convince everyone, and assume we've never seen it (since we haven't been convinced, you see), and then turn around and spout off the standard CT mantras almost word for word.
As an example, consider the debut of 28th Kingdom.