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What do you guys believe?

Gawdzilla said:
Evil master-minds who develop incredibly complex plots involving thousands and thousands of people, and then they forget to turn off the cameras when the deed is done.
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The really crazy thing is that only a few misfits with no expertise and no life are clever enough to notice such lapses by the evil geniuses.
 
aggle-rithm said:
They are actually quite good at filtering out evidence that disproves their beliefs.
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That's another good point: it's not enough for your conspiracy hypothesis to explain only the evidence presented in its favour. To be accepted, it must explain all the evidence (or at least, more evidence than competing hypotheses), even that evidence which would seem, at first, to contradict the hypothesis.

And "They faked it!" doesn't count as "explaining".
 
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On a slight tangent: Is there an entry-level training course available somewhere for beginner evil geniuses? Someone said that it is usually called a Harvard MBA...
 
By now I doubt that a single CTer is coming into this thread, because it's been jacked by us disinformation agents.

BTW, my last check hasn't arrived. Can somebody at Langley check on that please?
 
Gawdzilla said:
BTW, my last check hasn't arrived. Can somebody at Langley check on that please?
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When are you going to realize that, in an Evil Conspiracy, the payroll department is even more Evil than usual?
 
Horatius said:
That's another good point: it's not enough for your conspiracy hypothesis to explain only the evidence presented in its favour. To be accepted, it must explain all the evidence (or at least, more evidence than competing hypotheses), even that evidence which would seem, at first, to contradict the hypothesis.

And "They faked it!" doesn't count as "explaining".
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In my experience the most common 'explanation' used by CTers is the variation on "Oh yeah!? Well I don't think so!"
 
Zep said:
On a slight tangent: Is there an entry-level training course available somewhere for beginner evil geniuses? Someone said that it is usually called a Harvard MBA...
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Good Prep school followed by Eton, Oxford and the right Gentlemans Club
 
gsm1988 said:
Thank you for your response Brainache. I guess that my problem with the skeptic community is that seemingly any explanation for happenings in the world that is outside of the "accepted" viewpoints is automatically dismissed as "conspiracy theories."
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The skeptic community, for the most part, keeps an open mind about these events. If there's evidence to support a different viewpoint, and that evidence is compelling, we'll change our minds. The problem with "conspiracy theories" is that they are about a vast network of people conspiring to do something sinister, and there always seems to be no evidence. If you bring evidence, we'll listen.

If you're concerned that we're going to discredit your evidence, then use good evidence instead. Good evidence can't be discredited, and evidence that can be discredited shouldn't be persuasive to anyone (not even to you).
 
gsm1988 said:
If I am asked further, I will post some resources that explain my thinking on the fed and climate change legislation.
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Ok, then consider yourself asked. BTW, resources need to be RELIABLE. IOWs, they need to reference the law and/or experts in the field.
 
gsm1988 said:
Hi. I am obviously new to the board. I introduced myself in the new members thread. A majority of you here are obviously opposed to so called "conspiracy theories." I can respect that. Are there any so called "conspiracy theories" that you do believe in?
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Check out the allegations surrounding the deaths of Ron Brown and Vince Foster. Note that I don't believe in the *Clinton Death List*. Just those two deaths. You can browse for threads and posts on them by me here at JREF.

Also, check out Chinagate, Filegate, Rapegate ... all associated with Clinton or the Clinton adminstration . For some reason, many so called *skeptics* here at JREF simply dismiss those allegations out of hand. I wonder why? ;)
 
Horatius said:
Actually, if you posted good evidence, we'd give it due consideration, and if it was compelling, most of us would alter our position.
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CurtC said:
The skeptic community, for the most part, keeps an open mind about these events. If there's evidence to support a different viewpoint, and that evidence is compelling, we'll change our minds.
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I know I sound like a stuck record on this, but a few of us have been posting good evidence (some of it compelling) on the Lockerbie case for a couple of years. When we're not talking to ourselves (which we are, for most of the time), we tend to get either drive-by dismissive posts from people who know approximately zero about it but do "know" that it's a conspiracy theory so should be derided, or people who read what we have to say for a bit, then announce they've decided to believe the Official Version anyway, even if that's just being stubborn.

That doesn't cover everyone, to be fair - several people have agreed in other threads that the Zeist conviction appears to have been a miscarriage of justice. However, conspicuous by its absence is any substantial number of JREF anti-conspiracy-theory posters acknowledging the strength of the arguments.

I think there is some truth to the accusation that regular posters here have a default position of assuming that every suggested "conspiracy theory" must automatically be paranoid nonsense, and if they find one that seems not to be, they're more likely to put their hands in their pockets and stroll off, than engage with the issue.

Rolfe.
 
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Zep said:
On a slight tangent: Is there an entry-level training course available somewhere for beginner evil geniuses? Someone said that it is usually called a Harvard MBA...
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"Where is that Jewish conspiracy which runs the world, and how do I join?"

Favorite saying of several of my Jewish friends
 
Horatius said:
When are you going to realize that, in an Evil Conspiracy, the payroll department is even more Evil than usual?
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Still waiting for the Evil Bonus that was promised me.

Maybe the fact that they referred to the bonus as "evil" should have tipped me off.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
... and the right Gentlemans Club
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I highly recommend The Lodge in Dallas. Pop the extra for VIP, and ask for Rachel-Belle as your waitress. Then after they close, take her to The Fare Room for the breakfast buffet -- she'll run interference for you when you don't want someone to sit with you, and suddenly find someone she needs to go say "Hey" to when you do.





Or so I've heard < innocent eyes >
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