Moderated What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

[Slowvehicle]

No one here has offered a technical discussion...they've pointed to MIT and Purdue but clearly have never read the material, else they wouldn't be citing them.

What was the speed (not the velocity) of the leading edge of the wing of the 767 that was observed to impact the tower, at the point that it was observed to impact the tower (remember, speed is a scalar)?

 

[Hans]

No, you are avoiding discussing the east-west damage caused by a southbound jet. Why don't you ask what speed a southbound jet would need to reach to cause east-west damage from wingtip to wingtip?

Again avoidance just don't have a clue huh?

Lol

So you concede you have no idea of what you are talking about

Double lol

 

[Slowvehicle]

Now, now, now...stay on topic. East-west damage proves a north-south jet didn't cause it. If you are saying it did, then you'll need to adjust your calculations to address the question at hand. (Hint: its not a question of speed, its a question of trajectory)

One of the basic components of any trajectory is speed. What was the speed component of the trajectory of the leading edge of the wing of the 767 that was observed to impact the tower, at the point that the trajectory of the 767 that was observed to impact the tower was observed to impact the tower?

 

[yankee451]

One of the basic components of any trajectory is speed. What was the speed component of the trajectory of the leading edge of the wing of the 767 that was observed to impact the tower, at the point that the trajectory of the 767 that was observed to impact the tower was observed to impact the tower?

Use the NIST figures. I've cited them a couple times since my answer to you was moved.

 

[Hans]

It will be interesting to see what tactic he tries to use to further avoid a math based discussion

Lol

 

[yankee451]

Why can't you lay out this simple physics? Physics is math.

Show your math. Simple, right?

BTW: the math is in the links I gave you, stop saying it doesn't exists.

Here it is again: https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/

Can you point me to the calculations please?

 

[yankee451]

You can't open the link?

Where is your simple physics? We're still waiting.

I went to all the links on the page but didn't see their calculations. Please provide the link or post them in the thread.

 

[LSSBB]

I already brought up an explanation for how the damage could occur, and I am sure others have too. At this point Steve is just ignoring answers or posters he can't answer to. He will be talking to nobody soon.

 

[yankee451]

You can't open the link?

Where is your simple physics? We're still waiting.

And I'm waiting for yours. In the meantime, the observable damage supports my premise while disproving yours.

 

[Hans]

I already brought up an explanation for how the damage could occur, and I am sure others have too. At this point Steve is just ignoring answers or posters he can't answer to. He will be talking to nobody soon.

He's in a denial and avoidance mode so don't expect anything...pretty much we have had for 17 pages so far

 

[DGM]

I went to all the links on the page but didn't see their calculations. Please provide the link or post them in the thread.

You couldn't see the models?

 

[Robrob]

I already brought up an explanation for how the damage could occur, and I am sure others have too. At this point Steve is just ignoring answers or posters he can't answer to. He will be talking to nobody soon.

I suspect I am on ignore now as well. Could someone please ask him what shape of a hole he imagines a jet would make in the glass and aluminum facade, if not the readily observed central hole with obvious left and right wing strikes?

 

[HotRodDeluxe]

Repeating the mantra "thousands of witness saw stuff', doesn't make it so, and the damage evidence says otherwise (you know, that which is detailed in the video you're avoiding like the plague?)

It's not a mantra, but a fact. I watched the videos despite your obnoxious trolling behaviour and found them quite lacking in detail, science and logic. Actually, they were rather puerile, but I suppose I'm used to higher standards of evidence and presentation.

None of you have verified the "thousands of witnesses", but you can sure repeat the fairy tale. Hint: the same media that broadcast cartoon planes striking north-south but causing east-west damage is where the "thousands of witnesses" meme came from.

And you can't disprove witness testimony and the footage was not animated (yet another lie). Remember, the burden of proof lies with you, not me.

You have presented an outlandish and illogical claim, peppered with lies while you dismiss all the evidence that contradicts this wild story in a rather juvenile fashion, and you expect educated individuals to take you seriously? You are a troll, nothing more.

 

[beachnut]

Why can't you lay out this simple physics? Physics is math.

Show your math. Simple, right?

BTW: the math is in the links I gave you, stop saying it doesn't exists.

Here it is again: https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/

yankee451 debunked, but he keep on spreading lies. The energizer bunny of woo, lies and delusions.

 

[HotRodDeluxe]

I suspect I am on ignore now as well. Could someone please ask him what shape of a hole he imagines a jet would make in the glass and aluminum facade, if not the readily observed central hole with obvious left and right wing strikes?

Let me repost that for you, as I'm not on ignore (yet).

 

[DGM]

Let me repost that for you, as I'm not on ignore (yet).

I don't think he has anyone on ignore. He simply does not respond to questions he can't twist into some other direction.

I'm still waiting for the simple physics.

 

[yankee451]

You couldn't see the models?

They're nice but mine are more accurate.

Still no math. Do you even read what you cite? If so, give us a link to their calculations that they used to arrive at their models.

 

[Hans]

I don't think he has anyone on ignore. He simply does not respond to questions he can't twist into some other direction.

I'm still waiting for the simple physics.

You shall be waiting longer than Tantalus for a drink then

 

[Hans]

They're nice but mine are more accurate.

Still no math. Do you even read what you cite? If so, give us a link to their calculations that they used to arrive at their models.

We want to see yours you know what you are desperately trying to avoid


Run Yankee run lol

 

[DGM]

They're nice but mine are more accurate.

Still no math. Do you even read what you cite? If so, give us a link to their calculations that they used to arrive at their models.

Tell you what. You give me you're simple physics and I'll spend the few minutes it takes to post the data.

After all, this simple physics is the back bone of your claims and you have never actually presented it.

Deal?