Moderated What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

Craig4 said:
The plane in the video caused it.
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And yet the damage allegedly caused by said plane indicates something else entirely, and from a different direction.

See, now's your chance to explain how the damage evidence is consistent with the story you don't question.
 
Hans said:
In reading this thread I believe the problem is that your technical information or idea is so far fetched and anti-science that anyone trying to response to it has the problem similar to trying to address a flat earther, impossible due to the depth of the non-information hole you have dug.

What does one say to a person who says 2+2=5 1/2?
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Anti-science?

Your "calculation" may work on paper but it isn't reflected in the damage.

What do you say to someone who hides behind numbers as a way to avoid reading the writing on the wall?

Did you see how I did that, I used "writing on the wall" to describe the hole in the wall...figured I should splain it to you.
 
yankee451 said:
Yes.

Can you demonstrate how the east-west damage to the steel is consistent with a mostly hollow aluminum jet striking in a north-south trajectory?[/QUOT


I already gave you the numbers in a previous post, the math is simple enough.
Hollow is irrelevant, mass is relevant, don’t you get it?

Put simply, If I where to whack you up the side of the head with a brick wrapped in a slice of bacon, contra, a feather wrapped in a slice of bacon which is going to hurt most?

Give it your best shot!
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Peter May said:
yankee451 said:
Yes.

Can you demonstrate how the east-west damage to the steel is consistent with a mostly hollow aluminum jet striking in a north-south trajectory?[/QUOT



Hollow is irrelevant, mass is relevant, don’t you get it?

Put simply, If I where to whack you up the side of the head with a brick wrapped in a slice of bacon, contra, a feather wrapped in a slice of bacon which is going to hurt most?

Give it your best shot!
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It certainly is relevant. Did you see the slow-motion video of the steel being sliced by the hollow, wing shaped cutting blade? No?

Want to take your best shot as to why steel cutting blades are not shaped like airfoils?
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yankee451 said:
Peter May said:
It certainly is relevant. Did you see the slow-motion video of the steel being sliced by the hollow, wing shaped cutting blade? No?

Want to take your best shot as to why steel cutting blades are not shaped like airfoils?
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Interesting. In your universe, weed whackers/edge trimmers or whatever you want to call them should not work, as nylon filament is soft and bendy...
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yankee451 said:
Yes.

Can you demonstrate how the east-west damage to the steel is consistent with a mostly hollow aluminum jet striking in a north-south trajectory?
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the hell? I can't watch your video, but this makes no sense.

Ok I just punched my north wall. The damage extends four inches east to west and two inches "deep" (a/k/ north to south).
 
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Physics, remember that class, did you cut, skip, or what?
 
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It was da boid from the 1950s SF film, The Giant Claw.
 

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yankee451 said:
Anti-science?

Your "calculation" may work on paper but it isn't reflected in the damage.

What do you say to someone who hides behind numbers as a way to avoid reading the writing on the wall?

Did you see how I did that, I used "writing on the wall" to describe the hole in the wall...figured I should splain it to you.
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Your premise is based on magic and non-reality so yes the term anti-science is appropriate, give me if you will one hard fact that you believe proves your case, then explain why none of the people schooled in engineering agree with you?
 
beachnut said:
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Physics, remember that class, did you cut, skip, or what?
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Trivia question beechnut what are/were the fuel tanks of a 767 made of and how much did the biggest of them weigh when full of fuel?
 
yankee451 said:
Peter May said:
It certainly is relevant. Did you see the slow-motion video of the steel being sliced by the hollow, wing shaped cutting blade? No?

Want to take your best shot as to why steel cutting blades are not shaped like airfoils?
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Hollow wings? hmm are there not fuel tanks with fuel in it, this has also a mass. Even the Air inside the cabin has a mass.
And do you actually have an idea what aluminum alloys are used for planes? They have almost the same tensile strength as steel that was used for constructing the twin towers.
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The OP still doesn't understand vectors, and what implications that has for an angled edge intersecting with a flat surface in a non-frictionless universe....
 
Dumb All Over said:
A duck?
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Better than my geese guess...

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Kid Eager said:
The OP still doesn't understand vectors, and what implications that has for an angled edge intersecting with a flat surface in a non-frictionless universe....
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Surely you can use your math to demonstrate how the east-west bends and twists were caused by aluminum sheeting formed into the shape of a jet with 30 degree swept back wings striking in a north-south trajectory.

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yankee451 said:
Surely you can use your math to demonstrate how the east-west bends and twists were caused by aluminum sheeting formed into the shape of a jet with 30 degree swept back wings striking in a north-south trajectory.
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:rolleyes:
 
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yankee451 said:
Surely you can use your math to demonstrate how the east-west bends and twists were caused by aluminum sheeting formed into the shape of a jet with 30 degree swept back wings striking in a north-south trajectory.

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I've said it before: your force arrows are going in the wrong direction. The net force vector is *into* the building, not away from it. Reverse the direction of the arrows and you will see why the pillar deformations curve towards the point of impact.
 
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