What are the chances that Donald Trump will end up in prison?

[wareyin]

According to now (ex-GOP) Independent Rep. Julian Amash:


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ans-privately-thanked-me-for-supporting-trump

Chicken **** cowards will say it in private but kiss Trump's ass in public. Shame on them.

Amash is what, the 3rd Congresscritter to leave Congress or leave the GOP over Trump? Out of almost 300 R's in Congress over the 2016 and 2018 elections? Even with Flake and (I forget the other one), they'd make speeches and write letters about how awful Trump was, but vote for everything Trump wanted, so I expect Amash to do the same. I just don't buy the claim that the GOP wants to get rid of him when the GOP can actually do just that via the 25th Amendment or impeachment with facts that are already publicly available, yet they choose not to.

 

[wareyin]

How as your answer about the 25th amendment supposed to be any better? There are neither Democrats in the cabinet to speak of nor cabinet members posting here. So how is that supposed to be something we can make happen now?

I thought the question was what Democrats can do, not what "we, on this forum" can do. JoeMorgue began this whole offshoot by saying that Democrats should be wary of using impeachment, indictments, and investigations. We on this forum cannot do any of that stuff. Congresscritters can.

eta: Also, the Democrats can attempt to persuade the the few remaining actual, as opposed to acting, cabinet members. It's definitely a long shot, but it's not such an empty response as 'do nothing, just wait til the next election'.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

I thought the question was what Democrats can do, not what "we, on this forum" can do.

I asked about both. How can Democrats take over the cabinet?

 

[wareyin]

I asked about both. How can Democrats take over the cabinet?

answered in my edit. Of course, taking over the cabinet is not on the table. Trump isn't replacing cabinet members when they leave, just doing an end run around the Constitution with "acting" members.

 

[d4m10n]

Amash is what, the 3rd Congresscritter to leave Congress or leave the GOP over Trump? Out of almost 300 R's in Congress over the 2016 and 2018 elections? Even with Flake and (I forget the other one), they'd make speeches and write letters about how awful Trump was, but vote for everything Trump wanted, so I expect Amash to do the same.

Is there anything philosophically inconsistent about supporting conservative policies / judicial nominees while at the same time believing Trump is unfit for office on account of unrelated egregious abuses of presidential power (e.g. repeated obstruction of American efforts to investigate and defend against undeclared cyberwar waged by enemies abroad, pressuring DOJ & FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries, etc.).

 

[Stacyhs]

Is there anything philosophically inconsistent about supporting conservative policies / judicial nominees while at the same time believing Trump is unfit for office on account of unrelated egregious abuses of presidential power (e.g. repeated obstruction of American efforts to investigate and defend against undeclared cyberwar waged by enemies abroad, pressuring DOJ & FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries, etc.).

Exactly. Where the cowardice comes in is in the private criticism vs the public support or public silence when it comes to Trump. They're all scared ****less of him. Sadly, they have reason to be.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Away to Elba with him!

 

[Lurch]

According to now (ex-GOP) Independent Rep. Julian Amash:


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...ans-privately-thanked-me-for-supporting-trump

Chicken **** cowards will say it in private but kiss Trump's ass in public. Shame on them.

Too true! Simpering, self-interested cowards who do not possess the courage to render as real an erstwhile conviction. Such pond scum have no business in positions of any kind of leadership or power. One of the most egregious of that lot is Graham, upon whom the spirit of McCain--if an afterlife awaits us all--must glower most disprovingly.

 

[Craig4]

Gotcha. In the vast arsenal of ways to deal with Trump now, Democrats should just wait until 2020. Very sage advice.

I agree. It's important that the world see the American electorate put the anti America forces that elected Trump in their place and redeem the "sin" of allowing the Trump presidency.