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What about this crop circle?

So, after more than three-hundred-eighty posts in this thread, has anyone yet managed to convince anyone else that space aliens or psychic abilities cause crop circles?
 
It'd be a shame if he has... everyone was trying to help, but he wasn't exactly bending over backwards trying to undertsand
 
Stray Cat said:
It'd be a shame if he has... everyone was trying to help, but he wasn't exactly bending over backwards trying to understand
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Well, it is rather complicated.

It can't be easy keeping track of people and strings with knots or numbers on in the dark.:)
 
spin0 said:
After reading this thread I'm starting to get a little confused in this elusive capricious tricky field of cutting-edge cereology.

So, if one poops while making a crop circle is it a psychic poop then? Can it tell the future? What if two teams poop independently? For what purpose is the crop circle needed?
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Ha-ha, psychic poop. That's hilarious.

I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here because so many participants in this thread are on my ignore list. Oh well, that's the price I pay for being a thin-skinned unforgiving woo. :blush: Maybe it's better that way...there are way too many of you anyway.

Anyway, my point about your psychic poop is that there are a lot of crop circles made every year. If circlemakers are sloppy enough to poop in the field where they want and not worry about it then they probably have other sloppy habits in and out of the field. A bunch of sloppy pranksters and artists running around in the night stomping crops? Is that the picture of the world-wide criminal circlemaking community we should have? White, male, educated, married...sloppy?

I have trouble imagining circlemakers as sloppy, half-assed. But who am I to judge...I've never been to a crop circle, never made one, and I know no circlemakers. So there really isn't too much I can say about it. I have read a couple of books about it and seen a couple of documentaries and I check out the new crop circles every season though. I figure that makes me more informed than the average JREFer. Unless the average JREFer can list at least three books and at least three documentaries?
 
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Limbo said:
I'm at a bit of a disadvantage here because so many participants in this thread are on my ignore list.
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You say that as if you didn't have any say in the matter.

Anyway, my point about the psychic poop is that there are a lot of crop circles made every year. If circlemakers are sloppy enough to poop where they want then they probably have other sloppy habits in and out of the field. A bunch of sloppy pranksters and artists running around in the night stomping crops? Is that the picture of the world-wide circlemaking community we should have?
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Your reasoning is severely flawed.

First, you ignore that most people can easily go a work shift without needing to defecate.

Second, your reasoning suggests that people who "poop where they want" are sloppy and incapable of exacting work. That simply doesn't follow.

I have trouble imagining circlemakers as sloppy.
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I'm no Freudian, but it sounds like you have a psychological problem where you equate people who poop with sloppiness. As mentioned above, this makes no sense whatsoever.

See the nice neat circular fields in the image of my most recent previous post? Those were made by farmers who work long hours out in the field. They either wait to defecate when they can get to a toilet or they do it in the field somewhere. So your nutty theory of the relationship between defecation and sloppy work is thus disproven.

And see the earlier discussion on the construction of everything before humans had indoor plumbing.

Meanwhile, why won't you give a straightforward answer to these simple questions: What do you believe about crop circles? What is the evidence for your belief?
 
Limbo said:
I have read a couple of books about it and seen a couple of documentaries and I check out the new crop circles every season though. I figure that makes me more informed than the average JREFer. Unless the average JREFer can list at least three books and at least three documentaries?
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As usual, your reasoning here is severely flawed.

I know of people who believe in astrology. They read a great many silly books on astrology. Does this make them necessarily better informed than someone who hasn't read all those silly books?

How about someone who believes Sylvia Browne has actual psychic abilities? Does the fact that someone has read Browne's inane books make them better informed to assess the question of whether or not she actually has psychic abilities?
 
Just gonna repost this, as I'm still interested in the answer:
Limbo said:
On one hand we have amateur circlemakers sneaking around illegally. On the other hand we have professionals and a media event and permission from the land owner. I think it's worth while examining any differences between these two in light of crop circle characteristics.
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Sledge said:
Why?
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I think the fact that the primary "evidence" in this thread for the supposed psi origin of crop circles is based on poop is an indicator of the credence that cereology in general should be granted.
 
Limbo said:
Unless the average JREFer can list at least three books and at least three documentaries?
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The Field Guide (the art, history and Philosophy of crop circle making)
Rob Irving & John Lundberg (edited by Mark Pilkington)
ISBN: 978-0954805425
Available here directy from strangeattractor

Round in Circles (Poltergiests, Pranksters and the Secret History of the Cropwatchers)
Jim Schnabel
ISBN: 978-1591021100
Out of print, copies available on Amazon here

Miragemen (An odyssey onto the community of UFO believers)
Mark Pilkington
ISBN: 978-1602398009
Not out yet, pre-order your copy at Amazon here

I know I'm wasting my time here, but other readers may wish to read up too.

As for documentaries.... I have one or two of those as well.
 
Photoshop is actually alien technology ---- and crop circles, ghostly apparitions, Nazca Lines, and Jesus on a Frito are all part of their marketing campaign to get us to buy more Adobe products to create false images ... thus supplying them with income (to buy potable water to drink, since so many of them park their UFO's above Mexico City) while debunking their own existence until they are ready to appear "in the last days" (aka The End of Microsoft).
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Your reasoning is severely flawed.
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As far as I can tell, the reasoning goes like this:

1. If someone takes 15 hours to do something, they have to poop at some point during this time.
2. Because they can't use the farmer's bathroom, they must poop in the field.
3. Because they poop in the field, they are sloppy.
4. Sloppiness is inconsistent with the perfection of crop circles.
5. ????
6. Aliens!
 
Limbo said:
I have read a couple of books about it and seen a couple of documentaries and I check out the new crop circles every season though. I figure that makes me more informed than the average JREFer. Unless the average JREFer can list at least three books and at least three documentaries?
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No, thanks. To be honest, the phenomenon of crop circles themselves is not nearly as interesting to me as the question of why some people think they are supernatural.
 
aggle-rithm said:
As far as I can tell, the reasoning goes like this:

1. If someone takes 15 hours to do something, they have to poop at some point during this time.
2. Because they can't use the farmer's bathroom, they must poop in the field.
3. Because they poop in the field, they are sloppy.
4. Sloppiness is inconsistent with the perfection of crop circles.
5. ????
6. Aliens!
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That about sums it up--except 6 should be "paranormal activity" not "aliens".

However, his compelling argument that no one seems to be able to refute is. . .

IT SOMETIMES RAINS!!!! :eek:

I'm convinced. It's some kind of PSI.
 
We are not the target. We are insignificant. These are alien grain attacks against our wheat, oats, corn, and the odd cow that doesn't know any better. Get back to the barn if ya don't know a full blown invasion when you see one.
The grain alien's idea of "shock and awe" are not even that successful.

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