What about the Jordanian nuclear program?

[Oliver]

So, we both agree that Ahmadinejad is not behaving right in fostering hatred against Israel?
BTW
Do not start to say that the US and Israel, too, were not behaving right in other occasions..

Quite frankly - Ahmadinejad is a nut. But he's no threat unless
someone is really able to provide evidence. Everything else is
paranoia or propaganda- and this is dangerous, as you might
agree.

 

[WildCat]

Quite frankly - Ahmadinejad is a nut. But he's no threat unless
someone is really able to provide evidence. Everything else is
paranoia or propaganda- and this is dangerous, as you might
agree.

Rational people tend to like transparency in a IAEA-member country's nuclear programs.

``The international community mustn't allow itself to be divided,'' Merkel said. ``It's not the world that has to prove that Iran is building the bomb. Iran has to convince the world that it's not striving for the bomb.''

 

[Oliver]

Rational people tend to like transparency in a IAEA-member country's nuclear programs.

That's like saying "You have to prove that the 9/11 Commission Report is right".

Aren't we skeptics and the logic conclusion MUST be:
You made the claim that Iran is a threat - you have to back it up.

Wrong??? ETA: And since when?

 

[WildCat]

That's like saying "You have to prove that the 9/11 Commission Report is right".

Aren't we skeptics and the logic conclusion MUST be:
You made the claim that Iran is a threat - you have to back it up.

Wrong??? ETA: And since when?

Iran is a member of the IAEA. as such, it is subject to the Statute of the IAEA. It requires transparency in a nuclear program, transparency which Iran is flouting. It's not up to the rest of the world to prove what Iran is hiding, it's up to Iran to show it has nothing to hide. Your Chancellor understands this, you do not.

 

[Oliver]

Iran is a member of the IAEA. as such, it is subject to the Statute of the IAEA. It requires transparency in a nuclear program, transparency which Iran is flouting. It's not up to the rest of the world to prove what Iran is hiding, it's up to Iran to show it has nothing to hide. Your Chancellor understands this, you do not.

Iran never said it wants the bomb. So whoever (Mhmmm, who might this
be, mhmm ) says they want the bomb, should provide evidence for
this claim. But above of that:

• The IAEA has condemned the US over a report written by a congressional committee on the nuclear situation in Iran. The leaked report was called erroneous and misleading in a letter sent to Peter Hoekstra. Allegations in the report of why an inspector was dismissed were branded outrageous and dishonest. One unnamed western diplomat called it deja vu of the false reports made by the US administration to justify the invasion of Iraq.[57]
• IAEA officials complain that most U.S. intelligence shared with the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency about Iran's nuclear programme proved to be inaccurate, and none has led to significant discoveries inside Iran.[58]
• On 10 May 2007, Agence France-Presse, quoting un-named diplomats, reported that Iran had blocked IAEA inspectors when they sought access to the Iran's enrichment facility. Both Iran and the IAEA vehemently denied the report. On 11 March, 2007, Reuters quoted International Atomic Energy Agency spokesman Marc Vidricaire, "We have not been denied access at any time, including in the past few weeks. Normally we do not comment on such reports but this time we felt we had to clarify the matter...If we had a problem like that we would have to report to the (35-nation IAEA governing) board ... That has not happened because this alleged event did not take place."[59]

Full Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran#United_Nations

Don't believe the liars.
I don't need another Iraq-Lie pushed by mhmm.
And sorry, I smell propaganda agenda.

 

[WildCat]

Iran never said it wants the bomb.

Funny, neither did Pakistan, India, or N. Korea...

So whoever (Mhmmm, who might this
be, mhmm ) says they want the bomb, should provide evidence for
this claim.

Sorry, it's the other way around.

But above of that:




Don't believe the liars.
I don't need another Iraq-Lie pushed by mhmm.

Ahem...

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei and Iranian officials agreed in July that Tehran would answer questions from agency experts by December on more than two decades of nuclear activity - most of it secret until revealed over four years ago.

Hmmm, I wonder what the odds are of Iran actually answering the questions by December? And what was that about "two decades of nuclear activity"? Wonder why that was being kept secret, if the nuclear program was just for peaceful, power-generating purposes?

This week, IAEA technical officials returned to Tehran to to start probing outstanding questions, some with possible weapons applications. But while Iran is allowing the IAEA to inspect its known nuclear facilities, it no longer allows inspectors freedom to look elsewhere for suspicious activities on short notice as it once did.

Wonder why that is?

And sorry, I smell propaganda agenda.

And you've swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. Fortunately most world leaders aren't so naive.

 

[marksman]

But, they are not attacked every day by US media.
Why?

I guess the Jews who supposedly control the media are falling down on the job.

Obviously, the reason is because Saudi Arabia and Egypt didn't kidnap American citizens in the lat 1970's, didn't fund Hezbollah's operations in bombing Marines in Lebanon in the 1980's, and both moderated their positions towards Israel in the decades since they ran their Jews out of their respective countries, with Egypt even entering the Camp David Accords with Israel.

So, though Egypt has a lot of antimsemitism in its past, and many of its citizens still profess antisemitism, its government is not nearly as antisemitic as it once was. Neither is Saudi Arabi (though to a much lesser degree). Iran? Not so much.

 

[Matteo Martini]

I guess the Jews who supposedly control the media are falling down on the job.

Obviously, the reason is because Saudi Arabia and Egypt didn't kidnap American citizens in the lat 1970's,

30 years have passed

didn't fund Hezbollah's operations in bombing Marines in Lebanon in the 1980's,

20+ years have passed.

and both moderated their positions towards Israel in the decades since they ran their Jews out of their respective countries, with Egypt even entering the Camp David Accords with Israel.

So, though Egypt has a lot of antimsemitism in its past, and many of its citizens still profess antisemitism, its government is not nearly as antisemitic as it once was. Neither is Saudi Arabi (though to a much lesser degree). Iran? Not so much.

Mm..
I wonder if anti-semitism is the only problem here..

 

[Matteo Martini]

Quite frankly - Ahmadinejad is a nut. But he's no threat unless someone is really able to provide evidence. Everything else is
paranoia or propaganda- and this is dangerous, as you might
agree.

Is not saying " death to Israel " in a public show enough?
What would be, for you, enough evidence?
When he deploys a nuke over Tel Aviv?
What would be enough, but, it would be too late..