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Weird Experience

gerdbonk said:
What happens if you drive through New Mexico? Spirit license plate communication overload? Which plates are the actual messages and which are just regular old non-paranormal?
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And what's keeping all of the New Mexico drivers OUT of the other places when it's the wrong time?

And how much of a message can there really be this way anyway? One bit: on or off, 1 or 0, yes or no. You see the reminder that your mother is dead, or you don't. The only way that's usable is if you were asking a yes/no question.
 
I tried it on the way to work this morning... Because I didn't see any New Mexico license plates, I'm presuming the dead have nothing to say here in England. :confused:
 
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Iamme said:
But one could counter argue and say the Lord is only sending us little hints, to be mindful of his existance. Because the Earth is our testing ground. Otherwise we would have been as angels, already in his realm.
If say he wrote things magically in the sky, or spoke, or revealed himself, there would go the test. He wants people to become part of his team, someday, never to be revealed to the living, who naturally want to do good, be honest, treat others as you would be treated, etc., without feeling we are only doing so because Big Brother is watching.
So, perhaps there IS some significance to these little incomplete signs that many or all of us seem to get.
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Ah, The old "God can't make it obvious or what would be the point?!" rhetoric;

Instead he's allowed indescribable woe,misery and suffering in the world due to fighting over him/her/horse/it, So much better.
 
stanfr said:
I like a good filet--i think i might give it a shot, there's some evidence backing me up:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140315-five-second-rule-bacteria-food-safety/
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Not so fast - professor Hilton says:
"I have three young boys who have grown up dropping toast on the floor and picking it up again," he says. "In my own home, which I know to be hygienically clean, the risk of them picking anything nasty up with the toast is very, very low." But, he adds, "dropping food on the sidewalk is entirely a different matter."
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Not doubt a steak on a sidewalk would pick up entirely different matter...
 
Stray Cat said:
I tried it on the way to work this morning... Because I didn't see any New Mexico license plates, I'm presuming the dead have nothing to say here in England. :confused:
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I was reading through thread looking for this. I was going to say that if the OP lived in Nova Scotia, maybe they have an argument. If in England, I might ask them to see if their mother could to talk to some of my dead relatives for me. But California? Weak sauce.

I live in Michigan. We see license plates from four states and a Canadian province quite regularly. In California I'd expect to see even more out of state plates. Far more tourism there. Why not drive a few hours from NM to Cali for a weekend or vacation?
 
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stanfr said:
Fudbucker,
Why didn't you count the number of AZ plates in the lot? That's probably what I would have done if I happened to see a NM plate.
Iamme mentioned something about 1 in a million odds, but there are probably millions of possible connections to be made, so the actual odds are a pretty good bet! You mention the plates because you saw them (confirmation bias) but suppose you had seen your mother-in-law's name on a sign? Wouldn't that have been more significant? But you didn't, of course. And depending on the name, It might have been more likely that you would see the name. Not to mention the other million+ connections you could have made.
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I've been looking for them since. As I said, I live out in the sticks, and we don't see many out-of-state plates anyway, and the ones we do see tend to be populous or neighboring states.

Nor do I think it's the I bought a blue car and now see them everywhere. It's not like I'm seeing N.M. plates, and just not noticing them. It's a rare event to see any out-of-state plate. Maybe on the nearby freeway, but not at the local movie theater, which is well off the beaten track.

It would be equivalent to my wife saying, "Well, shooting stars were really important to me and my mom, and when I see one it's a sign", and that night, after humoring my wife and "talking" to her dead mom in my head, I happen to see two shooting starts. That would be an accurate prediction of a rare event, and I would (and mostly do) chalk it up to coincidence, but part of me wonders.

Coincidence can only take it so far. What if the prediction had been a N.M. license plate AND the car that had it happened to have a vanity plate that said "Althea" (the name of my dead mother-in-law) AND it was the same make and model that she used to drive when she lived with us, AND... At some point, the coincidence explanation becomes too far-fetched, but I don't know what that point is. On the far extreme, if someone predicted you would win the lottery if you played numbers X,Y,Z, and you played them, and you won, it wouldn't be rational to chalk it up to coincidence. Coincidence would be possible, but in that case, the odds are so long, that other theories would be more plausible. If someone passed a 50-card Zener test with 100% accuracy, it's possible it was luck, but that would be a terrible explanation.

I'm not putting the odds of what happened to me on those levels. Most likely, it was coincidence, but they were long odds, and the event came up twice within a very short-time frame.

I'm also surprised at the smarmy tone of some of the posters. I've been posting here for years, I don't have a history of talking about woo, and I had a strange experience, and wanted some input. I didn't ask to be made fun of.
 
I believe the opening line of the OP was key.

He stated that he had been obsessed with dying lately. I have experienced those same type of feelings, and people who i have loved, but have died, are on my mind a lot. I start to dream about them a lot, and for awhile I thought they were leaving signs by coming to me at night.

But then I realized, it was my obsession with dying was at the root. I actually went through a grieving process when after dealing with the fear of dying issue got under control, the dreams mostly stopped.
 
Next time this happens, stick around and talk to the people who own the cars.
 
Fudbucker said:
Coincidence can only take it so far. What if the prediction had been a N.M. license plate AND the car that had it happened to have a vanity plate that said "Althea" (the name of my dead mother-in-law) AND it was the same make and model that she used to drive when she lived with us, AND... At some point, the coincidence explanation becomes too far-fetched, but I don't know what that point is.
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Yes, but none of that happened. An if it did, it could still be coincidence.

Fudbucker said:
On the far extreme, if someone predicted you would win the lottery if you played numbers X,Y,Z, and you played them, and you won, it wouldn't be rational to chalk it up to coincidence.
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Sure it would (be rational to chalk it up to coincidence). No different than you picking three random numbers, being sure you'll win, and actually winning. Why would somebody else picking the numbers for you be any more of a coincidence? How many other times has that person told other people to play different numbers and been wrong? If I play the numbers in my fortune cookie and win, does that mean fortune cookies provide accurate fortunes? Or that particular fortune cookie was somehow magical when none of the others were? Or was it a very favorable coincidence?
 
To me, it sounds like you may think you know that out-of-state plates are rare in your area, but have you ever actually taken a survey? They may seem like they really jump out, but how do you know how many you miss in a given day/week/month?

One thing you can do is to keep a license plate journal, and make a special point of looking at license plates as you walk past cars in any parking lot (I don't recommend doing this while driving! ;)). See how many out-of-state plates you find on a daily basis, which states, and roughly how far from your area they traveled.

Once you get a better idea of the normal distribution of out-of-state plates, you can get a better feel for just how odd that experience really was.
 
Fudbucker said:
[...] But I said, OK, and mentally asked for a sign yesterday morning. A few hours later, we're walking out of a theater, and we walk down the wrong row of cars, looking for my car, and of course, there's a New Mexico plate. My wife gets all excited, and even I think it's a little strange, because we don't see them much in California (they're bright yellow plates). So we go down another row of cars and there's another New Mexico plate. And this is literally hours after she told me about the license plate thing.

I could laugh it off as coincidence (and no doubt anyone reading this probably is), but it was very strange. I commute an hour a day on the freeway and can't recall seeing a New Mexico plate in a long time. It's a small state, doesn't border California, I live in the sticks, and it's rare to see any non-California plate.

Anyway, I thought it was strange. Does anyone else have experiences like that?
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This requires that the drivers of the cars with New Mexico plates began driving to wherever you live long before you asked for a sign.

This implies not merely communication with spirits, but also precognition on the part of the spirits -- they knew you were going to ask for the sign, and thus, before you asked for the sign, they directed the New Mexicans to go where you were going to be.

Why didn't the New Mexicans accost you to tell you that they had been given orders to show up in this parking lot? If the New Mexicans didn't know about the orders, why were they parked just where you would see the plates? Also, if they didn't know about the orders, why were in that particular parking lot at that particular time? They must have had a conscious reason for being there -- it's incredibly difficult to believe that each one of them sat there, thinking "Wow, I wonder why I am here in this parking lot in this little town in California instead of home in New Mexico."

Were other cars with the New Mexico plates in the same parking lot, cars that you didn't see?
 
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Fudbucker said:
I'm not putting the odds of what happened to me on those levels. Most likely, it was coincidence, but they were long odds, and the event came up twice within a very short-time frame.
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Find out accurate figures of how many out of state licence plates you could expect to be in your state a any one time.
Re-run the same "experiment" several times and work out the odds.
I think you'll find that the more you try, the more you will accept that coincidences happen.
At the moment you've got a minute data set and no real background stats to support it.

The other relevant thing about coincidence is that it is necessary for it to be more subjectively meaningful for it to even be seen by the subject as more than a coincidence. That of course doesn't statistically raise it above any other coincidental occurrence.
 
Fudbucker said:
I've been looking for them since. As I said, I live out in the sticks, and we don't see many out-of-state plates anyway, and the ones we do see tend to be populous or neighboring states.

Nor do I think it's the I bought a blue car and now see them everywhere. It's not like I'm seeing N.M. plates, and just not noticing them. It's a rare event to see any out-of-state plate. Maybe on the nearby freeway, but not at the local movie theater, which is well off the beaten track.

It would be equivalent to my wife saying, "Well, shooting stars were really important to me and my mom, and when I see one it's a sign", and that night, after humoring my wife and "talking" to her dead mom in my head, I happen to see two shooting starts. That would be an accurate prediction of a rare event, and I would (and mostly do) chalk it up to coincidence, but part of me wonders.
Coincidence can only take it so far. What if the prediction had been a N.M. license plate AND the car that had it happened to have a vanity plate that said "Althea" (the name of my dead mother-in-law) AND it was the same make and model that she used to drive when she lived with us, AND... At some point, the coincidence explanation becomes too far-fetched, but I don't know what that point is. On the far extreme, if someone predicted you would win the lottery if you played numbers X,Y,Z, and you played them, and you won, it wouldn't be rational to chalk it up to coincidence. Coincidence would be possible, but in that case, the odds are so long, that other theories would be more plausible. If someone passed a 50-card Zener test with 100% accuracy, it's possible it was luck, but that would be a terrible explanation.

I'm not putting the odds of what happened to me on those levels. Most likely, it was coincidence, but they were long odds, and the event came up twice within a very short-time frame.

I'm also surprised at the smarmy tone of some of the posters. I've been posting here for years, I don't have a history of talking about woo, and I had a strange experience, and wanted some input. I didn't ask to be made fun of.
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It is very easy to overestimate how rare events are, as shown by the hilited. Seeing two meteors in a single (clear) night would not be a rare event. Everywhere on Earth there's several visible meteors an hour on nights when there's no meteor storm, and due to the clumping that is inherent in random events, if you notice one you're very likely to notice another if you just keep looking up for a couple of minutes.

A rare event would be looking at a clear night sky for an hour and seeing no meteors at all.
 
Well, again my post is ignored, and a new member becomes a target for sarcasm.

What I mentioned up thread, is that I believe his opening sentence explains a lot. He has stated that he has been having obsessive thoughts about death. I believe that is really the issue. The fear is enough to make him grasp at straws. Seeing car plates is very secondary.

I would like to know more about his obsession with death, if he is willing to open up about it. Because I believe it is crucial to his story.

But really folks, pointing out the absurdity with endless sarcastic jokes is getting old and repetitive.

Just my opinion, if anyone cares.
 
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