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Bruce Voigt said:
If debris spotted s/w of Perth is of flight 337 then they to without knowing probably experienced the likes of limited pressure zone of high gravity or an erratic longitudinal erratic earth tipping.
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Since I can't imagine your claims getting much more removed from reality, I suppose I'm open to an explanation of "erratic longitudinal erratic earth tipping".
 
@WhatRoughBeast Glad you asked!

Bruce Voigt said:
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‘Florida is not supposed to be cold like this’
Farmers race to save crops as deep chill grips much of U.S.
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At this time we can all agree that Dramatic Earth Changes are taking place.
"Question is WHY?"

A --- Government -- "WHAT" a mini ice age you say! Well just tell the media that its GLOBAL WARMING no sense in causing panic. It will take the people ten or twenty years to discover that they are really freezing their little buns (-ss-s) (donkys) off.

B --- Checkmate-983933 --I live with an elderly couple (81 & 76) who can tell you when it was the coldest and when they had to most snow. We live in RI. There is nothing shocking here with the amount of snow or how cold it is.

C --- Bob-715311 -- We're getting arctic air ?? But the arctic air is melting snow in the arctic, right??? So why are we all cold???

D --- Gord_in_Toronto -- What he said.

E --- Bruce Voigt --- THE EARTH IS TIPPING THE EARTH IS TIPPING THE EARTH IS TIPPING
The tipping of the Earth is no big deal, as long as it’s gradual, we can cope with it.
The rotation speed of the Earth is a big deal, and so far we are A-okay.

IT’S NOT GLOBAL WARMING GUYS!
IT’S DISTRIBUTION OF TEMPERATURE caused by the Earth’s erratic tipping, changing Sun and Moon exposure!

It is of GREAT IMPORTANCE to establish a constant monitoring system for Canada's North Magnetic Pole Movements. --- WOBBLING of the EARTH Bruce Voigt Science
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WOBBLING of the EARTH
Has been explained by science as like a spinning top slowing. My science explains the flip flop tipping of our earth in its annual orbit around the sun. Until recently the interaction of the earth and sun’s magnetic poles, that give us our four seasons, has been subtle.

Explained in other papers, earth’s longitudinal tipping causes an equal and opposite movement of the equator causing both north and south magnetic poles to relocate in the opposite direction and distance of earth’s tipping.

It’s too early (February 2006) to determine regularity in the extreme flip flopping (tipping of the Earth).

The equator has moved one thousand miles north on earth’s North and South America side and one thousand miles south on Asia and Australia’s side.

Earth’s climate is determined by sun exposure, cold secreting from earth’s magnetic north and south poles – the secretion of earth energy evolving to interact with air and water (weather). Secondary to these would be cold producing molecules (chips) of snow and ice, heated water and air.

Like Australia, Arizona gains the heat of the now closer equator (sun exposure) and Japan loses the heat of the equator. Cold produced from the poles has little effect on these, and climate transition is quick. Russia gains cold from its arctic and loses the heat of the equator – its transition is quicker than ours.

Waiting for the ice to melt, Canada’s warming will be more gradual. If this extreme flip flopping becomes the norm, we in Vancouver, B.C. will enjoy the weather of Los Angeles, C.A. and they will endure the heat of Mexico – in a boat – hmmm.

Now after that has been said, I have put a little more effort into researching this subject and conclude that:

In the orbital interaction of both the sun and earth’s magnetic poles there exists two dramatic, annual movements. One in the fall when the earth’s repelling north pole is severed from the sun’s north pole, and one in the spring when the two repelling south poles are severed. (instant radiation change)

I believe that it’s a star, other than our sun, that allows stability of the above. For whatever reason it appears lately that things are not working the way they should.

In contact with Natural Resources, Canada, I was advised that money allotment is minimal for magnetic pole research, that the last time on location was May 2001 with readings of 81.3N 110.8W. The next scheduled trip is May of 2007; in the meantime computer readouts estimate a one degree per year change to 82.7N 114.4W for 2005. This year, 2006, the magnetic north pole is estimated at 83.7N 120.W. It would not be necessary to be on location to determine 120°W longitude. A longitude change of 3.6 was expected, but is a change of 9.2 – Wow! Computer estimated location to be moving NW at 40km per year.

Someone not respecting our arctic sovereignty, and who measures in other than metric, recently discovered that the magnetic north pole has relocated one thousand miles towards Siberia – Wow!

When the Canadian government realizes the importance of this and puts up funding they will discover and confirm the things I am saying. Another for instance: In earth’s two annual erratic tippings, it will be necessary to know the continent location in relation to the sun when this instant phenomenon takes place. It’s this that causes the Earth to appear to wobble. THE AXIS OF THE EARTH RUNS THROUGH THE MEANDERING NORTH AND SOUTH MAGNETIC POLES – NOT the TRUE global North and South poles!

This late summer (fall) 2005 the earth tipped away from the sun at the time Asia was facing the sun. So what, you say! Well, this is so what: Severe cold in Russia, severe heat in Australia, Arizona etc.
Pine beetle is an aftermath and it’s this not the pine beetle that’s devastating the pine forests. Oh, and in case you haven’t noticed, the cedar tree is also going the way of the Dodo Bird.

If the earth flips and flops (hold it) one at a time. If the earth flips away from the sun every year on the same side facing the sun, the continents will eventually rotate on its axis in relation to sun and moon exposure. Except for a bit of tipping, the earth’s axis stays constant.

Over time, geologically this would indicate pole shifts “(NOT)”.

A pole shift is when a magnetic source (much stronger than ours) immediately reverses the earth’s nucleus direction. This will happen again in about sixty-five million years. The above is all explained in The VOIGT Papers.

P.S. I’m just guessing at this time, but I’m just wondering if the earth may be getting pulled closer to the north star, stretching the oval orbit of earth; something like this would account for a closer, stronger, magnetic earth-sun interaction.
Bruce Voigt 14 February 2006
 
Bruce Voigt said:
@WhatRoughBeast Glad you asked!



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WOBBLING of the EARTH
Has been explained by science as like a spinning top slowing. My science explains the flip flop tipping of our earth in its annual orbit around the sun. Until recently the interaction of the earth and sun’s magnetic poles, that give us our four seasons, has been subtle.

Explained in other papers, earth’s longitudinal tipping causes an equal and opposite movement of the equator causing both north and south magnetic poles to relocate in the opposite direction and distance of earth’s tipping.

It’s too early (February 2006) to determine regularity in the extreme flip flopping (tipping of the Earth).

The equator has moved one thousand miles north on earth’s North and South America side and one thousand miles south on Asia and Australia’s side.

Earth’s climate is determined by sun exposure, cold secreting from earth’s magnetic north and south poles – the secretion of earth energy evolving to interact with air and water (weather). Secondary to these would be cold producing molecules (chips) of snow and ice, heated water and air.

Like Australia, Arizona gains the heat of the now closer equator (sun exposure) and Japan loses the heat of the equator. Cold produced from the poles has little effect on these, and climate transition is quick. Russia gains cold from its arctic and loses the heat of the equator – its transition is quicker than ours.

Waiting for the ice to melt, Canada’s warming will be more gradual. If this extreme flip flopping becomes the norm, we in Vancouver, B.C. will enjoy the weather of Los Angeles, C.A. and they will endure the heat of Mexico – in a boat – hmmm.

Now after that has been said, I have put a little more effort into researching this subject and conclude that:

In the orbital interaction of both the sun and earth’s magnetic poles there exists two dramatic, annual movements. One in the fall when the earth’s repelling north pole is severed from the sun’s north pole, and one in the spring when the two repelling south poles are severed. (instant radiation change)

I believe that it’s a star, other than our sun, that allows stability of the above. For whatever reason it appears lately that things are not working the way they should.

In contact with Natural Resources, Canada, I was advised that money allotment is minimal for magnetic pole research, that the last time on location was May 2001 with readings of 81.3N 110.8W. The next scheduled trip is May of 2007; in the meantime computer readouts estimate a one degree per year change to 82.7N 114.4W for 2005. This year, 2006, the magnetic north pole is estimated at 83.7N 120.W. It would not be necessary to be on location to determine 120°W longitude. A longitude change of 3.6 was expected, but is a change of 9.2 – Wow! Computer estimated location to be moving NW at 40km per year.

Someone not respecting our arctic sovereignty, and who measures in other than metric, recently discovered that the magnetic north pole has relocated one thousand miles towards Siberia – Wow!

When the Canadian government realizes the importance of this and puts up funding they will discover and confirm the things I am saying. Another for instance: In earth’s two annual erratic tippings, it will be necessary to know the continent location in relation to the sun when this instant phenomenon takes place. It’s this that causes the Earth to appear to wobble. THE AXIS OF THE EARTH RUNS THROUGH THE MEANDERING NORTH AND SOUTH MAGNETIC POLES – NOT the TRUE global North and South poles!

This late summer (fall) 2005 the earth tipped away from the sun at the time Asia was facing the sun. So what, you say! Well, this is so what: Severe cold in Russia, severe heat in Australia, Arizona etc.
Pine beetle is an aftermath and it’s this not the pine beetle that’s devastating the pine forests. Oh, and in case you haven’t noticed, the cedar tree is also going the way of the Dodo Bird.

If the earth flips and flops (hold it) one at a time. If the earth flips away from the sun every year on the same side facing the sun, the continents will eventually rotate on its axis in relation to sun and moon exposure. Except for a bit of tipping, the earth’s axis stays constant.

Over time, geologically this would indicate pole shifts “(NOT)”.

A pole shift is when a magnetic source (much stronger than ours) immediately reverses the earth’s nucleus direction. This will happen again in about sixty-five million years. The above is all explained in The VOIGT Papers.

P.S. I’m just guessing at this time, but I’m just wondering if the earth may be getting pulled closer to the north star, stretching the oval orbit of earth; something like this would account for a closer, stronger, magnetic earth-sun interaction.
Bruce Voigt 14 February 2006
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"I have put a little more effort into researching this subject"? Possibly. But not enough. If the Earth were to flip, we would all fall down (like in the Ringa-Ringa-Roses song). :cool:
 
Bruce Voigt said:
WOBBLING of the EARTH
Has been explained by science as like a spinning top slowing.
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Not quite right, Bruce Voigt.
There is a scientific explanation of axial precession, which is not the analogy of a spinning top.

You have presented no science.
You have presented no evidence for an "extreme flip flopping (tipping of the Earth)".
The physical impossibility of an "extreme flip flopping" seems to have escaped you, Bruce Voigt. You have people on the equator travelling at 1,674.4 km/hour in one direction. The Earth's axis flips. These people are now travelling at 1,674.4 km/hour in the reverse direction :eek:!
The little fact that there are satellites above the Earth constantly looking down on the surface that would have seen this flipping (if it happened in the last 50 years) is ignored by you.
The little fact that astronomers that have been looking at the stars for thousands of years who would have noticed the sudden change in the position of stars has escaped you.
The little fact that ordinary people have been looking at the stars for thousands of years and would have noticed the sudden change in the position of stars has also escaped you.

You give no citation to these "other papers".
The rest of the post is just guesses (as you state, Bruce Voigt) dating from February 2006. IOW you have made no progress in backing up these guesses with evidence for he last 8 years.
 
Missing flight 370
Allow me to throw another theory or two into the ring.

Gravity or weight is determined by comparison. A troy ounce of bronze is locked away and is protected from erosion etc. This little thing is what is used to keep whats know as standard weight.

It is not known that true gravity (weight) is in constant change and those days that you feel light and bouncy and the times you feel heavy YOU REALLY ARE!

True weight or gravity can change dramatically causing
AIR CRAFT TO FALL OUT OF THE SKY!
US AIR 427, 517 etc


Originally Posted by Bruce Voigt
Question;
What is the last thing that goes through a bee's mind as it comes in contact with the window of a speeding car? Answer is It's bum

Statement recently made;
I have experienced coming to an immediate full stop from an approximate speed of 125mph with out feelings of any kind.
With out an explanation this would come off as a crazy, crazy incomprehensible statement and for many years this phenomenon along with a few others was crazy for me to.

Considering the following will make sense of this coming to a full stop craziness.

Posted: Jan 6 2007, 08:45 AM
On one occasion in the High Arctic I was west bound at about four thousand feet.
Air speed indicated 125mph, ground speed was about the same but THE GROUND WAS GOING THE WRONG WAY.
The odd occasion I have found strong head winds at about a thousand feet and have powered back to hover over a Village for a bit. Oh no this was wearied, letting down I don't recall or did not pay attention to what altitude that I escaped this low level jet stream. Never heard of this kind of thing before. The real strange thing here was that there was absolutely no turbulence to going in or coming out of this approximate 250mph phenomenon.

Posted: Apr 25 2008, 02:03 PM
As mentioned, I have shut down my earth wobbling experiment and in understanding get a vague idea of earth wobbling activity by changes happening around the world. To date this natural phenomenon has not subsided and is becoming a bit worrisome.

Posted: Oct 11 2007, 06:53 PM
Erratic earth tipping is in progress and its causing a lot of confusion for Life here on earth. Tracking this phenomenon will make it much easier for us to cope with the consequences.
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Simply, earth had moved beneath me and without knowing at the time experienced an erratic earth tipping.
 
Ifn this discovered debris south of Perth (well over six thousand km) is in fact that of flight 337 and to do the math, most important thing for me would be the amount of fuel it had on board. The sad thing here is that we're not ready for such things and there will be a cover up.


Originally Posted by Bruce Voigt
And after all these years of wonderment, again the earth had moved with out me.

Arctic Flight and Other Things
Chapt 12
Bathurst Inlet to Yellowknife, I got a little bit lost. Well, maybe disoriented, never lost. A little, well would you believe by 400 miles.

After take off, I heavily compensated for very strong north/west winds and of course whiteout conditions existed. I finally came up on the tree line on a very large lake which had to be the north/east end of Great Bear Lake, obviously over compensating for cross wind.
I spent a lot of time with the area map trying to find out where on this lake I was.
Great Bear Lake is 2oo miles across, so imagine the frustration of maps and time trying to find where on this lake I would be.
Well, I spotted something familiar that confused me. This something belonged to Artillary Lake which is on the east end of Great Slave Lake. One degree less in compensation would have scooted me right by, never reaching the tree line. Search and Rescue, why can't you find me!

Boy talk about things that make your day. I was so happy, The thought of blowing the tanks and being dark and whether I actually had enough fuel to make Yellowknfe or not didn't fizz.
I landed at Yellowknife with two blown tanks and the third on red light and with the feeling of good fortune completely worn off.

The Otter has three gas tanks. When a tank gets low, a red warning light comes on, If you don't switch tanks at that time it becomes a mystery to when the motor suddenly, without sputtering stops and even doing this intentionally I still jump. So by burning the tanks off you know for sure, for sure what your fuel is.
 
Bruce Voigt said:
Missing flight 370
Allow me to throw another theory or two into the ring.
...snipped no theories at all about Missing flight 370 :eek:....
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If you are going to make up ideas about the missing flight 370 then you should at least mention it, Bruce Voigt, and not spam us with 7 year old posts :jaw-dropp!
 
Oh dear – It appears that flight 370 has gone down.
For any of you who are interested, I will put a bit together on a few of my unusual and unknown encounters that could relate to the cause of this terrible catastrophic event.
 
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For any of you who are interested, .....
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We are not interested in any fantasies but if you have viable ideas abut the cause of this specific incident then state them coherently, Bruce Voigt.
No spamming of years old posts. No stories about you getting lost. No "gravity did it" myths. No UFO/Big Foot/alien encounters!
 
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OK the experts are about to go gung- ho in regards to flight 370 and believe me these people are thorough but let me give you a scenario; without a long story and the crux being that a passenger and myself barely avoided a crash in a remote mountain area.
Had this in fact taken place, aircraft investigation would determine that the aircraft was functioning without problems. That the weather may have been marginal and depending where in the cumula-granite we were found would determine results of their investigation.
What they would not know is that I was experiencing the labor pains of a kidney stone attack!
 
Sorry I don't have the particulars but in the early seventies an airliner on approach suddenly dropped off radar over the great lakes. Only one survivor, which was the copilot. In a statement he said the approach was normal with absolutely no indication, instrument or otherwise that the air craft had dropped into the lake.
Hearing this I new what had happened and like now people don't seem to be ready for such things.

Bruce Voigt said:
Missing flight 370
Allow me to throw another theory or two into the ring.
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Read Slower
 
Now with the Deadly Washington mudslide disaster and recent Johnsons landing catastrophye, multiple slides, sink holes, avalanche, wildfire , recent earth quakes and in view of (No spamming of years old posts) I think the following is appropriate

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Bruce Voigt Posted: Feb 4 2007, 06:12 PM
IN THE EVENT OF CATASTROPHE
Knowledge, my experiments and discoveries (tipping of the earth) have led me to believe that my home (western Canada) will be experiencing catastrophe that of other parts of the world. It appears to me that very important disclosures of my science have fallen on deaf ears. The following, after ten years of rejection, is kind of a last ditch effort.

I can only speak for myself in saying that early detection and warning is the be all in life threatening events. Well, I have been proven wrong. Current events the likes of hurricanes have stripped back the veil of civilization showing man for what he really is. One thing I have learned in life is to work with what you’ve got. We on Vancouver Island have a government funded emergency service. In the event of say a seven earthquake you may hear sirens from beneath their collapsed building.

Because the Pacific Geo-Science Center of Victoria has ignored my discovery of early detection and what really causes an earthquake, you and your family may awaken to a catastrophe. Most people of your block will be deceased; survivors including you and yours are suffering injuries. Now what?

I propose that a community get together and fund their own collapse-proof survival building storing emergency gear. Well that’s sure not going to happen so think about this.

E X P E R I M E N T 909
Shows that by flicking with thumb and forefinger a reaction is created where molecules of both tree pitch and skin are sent in chaotic directions. Now instead of being attracted to each other they are repelling and the pitch can easily be wiped from the skin. It’s this type of scenario that causes avalanche, mountains to collapse, sink holes, mud slides etc. Water is just one reaction, there are others!

For a better understanding I, as a concerned member of the community, would march right down to the emergency service and demand that they take a few bucks out of their million or so and do something good. First off get and study aerial photos and samples of the terrain demolished by the India-Pakistan earthquake. Next, determine the safe and unsafe areas of the community. In safe areas select volunteers to donate a small storage area housing a few cans of beans and at least one Magic Magee. Under supervision the Magee could effectively handle at least three injuries per hour. Now, that represents at least seventy-two injured people each day. You know the nice thing about this claim is that I, Bruce Voigt, can prove it to anyone, anywhere, anytime! Oh, and don’t forget the mula to advertise the locations for people to crawl to, and a copy to Search and Rescue!

http://globalnews.ca/news/1227055/108-people-reported-missing-after-deadly-washington-landslide/
http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en-C..._group&ei=D8UxU6ycC4rZoATtzYKYAw&ved=0CB0QsAQ
 
Bruce Voigt said:
... I think the following is appropriate
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It looks like you did not think at all, Bruce Voigt :rolleyes:
An irrelevant post from 2007 containing fantasies about earthquakes and a bit of gibberish is actually spamming of years old posts.
You do know that "Deadly Washington mudslide disaster and recent Johnsons landing catastrophye, multiple slides, sink holes, avalanche, wildfire" are not earthquakes :jaw-dropp?
The amazing fact that earthquakes happen all of the time seems to have escaped you :D. Most of them are not noticed except by seismologists.
 
Bruce Voigt said:
... I, as a concerned member of the community ...
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I can't help thinking it's your community which should be concerned.

Have you ever, in your entire life, experienced a moment of self-doubt? From your posts it's not obvious that you have; if anything, the impression they give is that you haven't. You might want to correct that, if it's mistaken.
 
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