Split Thread Weather and other science stuff (split from "Tornado Theory")

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Beware the Dark Suckers, Bruce. Beware the Dark Suckers.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

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I Bruce Voigt do CONFESS

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Bruce Voigt
Posted: Apr 16 2007, 05:26 PM
It has now become political to whether or not Cell Phones, Power Lines etc are or are not responsible for Health related problems.

First off, every one who thinks they do, will all agree that these emit a HARMFUL energy. "WRONG"

It is NOT the energy emitting that is the problem and "there is a problem".
It IS, IS, IS the ENERGY that these absorb, robbing cells of the body of this needed energy!

The future electric car! Hmmmmmmm

Any one who has seen this documentary would agree that it was overkill to what took place recovering and destroying these many vehicles.

I believe (because of all my whining) that presently the electric car has installed technology rectifying the reason.
To reason with something one must know the true reason.

 

[catsmate]

Why is this thread in the science, mathematics forum ?

It blatantly contains neither.

Well there isn't a "Bruce Voigt's Incoherent Ramblings" forum I'm afraid.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

Bruce Voigt Science??? Hmmmmmmmm

Just try suggesting to anyone that the City or Government add salt to the asphalt that paves our highways and byways and they will tell you your crazy and explain that any salt will just be washed away. End of story!

Well then along comes a guy like me and gives a little thought to such things as;

Posted: Jan 25 2007, 02:59 AM
AURA OF SALT
Think about this one: a fisherman spreads, unevenly if I might mention, a layer of salt over fish, layer upon layer. When you watch this you realize that the preservative (salt) does not penetrate the fish to leave a salt taste,

Posted: Dec 25 2006, 07:06 PM
#2-- Take two frozen steaks out of the freezer and place one on the counter the other in a non heated aluminum fry pan. Its just like magic, after just a few minutes the bottom side of the steak in the fry pan is thawed, turn and in just a few more minutes its ready to cook, the steak on the counter is still frozen solid. A few more examples, frozen turkey submerged in cold water, salt on a icy road etc.

Posted: Dec 26 2006, 02:17 PM
As it took a hammer to initiate an orbit direction change in the steel it took the aura of aluminum to change the chaotic nuclei orbit of the frozen water cell of the steak. This allowed the many cold producing nuclei to again form a minimal cold producing cell (thawing).

It only takes two magnets to demonstrate Aura! The mosquito flying in the rain has no concern as its aura is repelling the aura of the rain drop (auto pilot).

Making a snow ball forces the repelling aura (nuclei) of the snow flake to conform to a same orbit state causing the many cold producing poles to again become a minimal cold producing cell (water).

Posted: Dec 31 2006, 10:28 AM
The reaction of light has changed or caused chaotic movement having the nuclei of the flowers cells running into each other and the cells aura is repelling the aura of other repelling aura opening the flower. With out this reaction (night) the orbiting cell nuclei regroup into same orbit direction and now being attracted to each other close the flower. Its just a reaction that closes the Venus fly trap etc etc.


I really don't need to mention the tremendous amount of heart ache, icy roads cause.
I do my little simple experiments, like when snow is expected, place a fry pan out side, a shaving of asphalt placed on a plate of salt in a plastic bag. These experiments tell me that if salt was added to the make up of asphalt that it would be the aura of salt pregnated deep into the roadway to be a permanent solution to icy roads.

OK realisticly you can't go out and replace all the roads but it would be so simple to add a thin layer of salt treated asphalt.

 

[X]

I still don't know what this thread is about.

And I'm starting to wonder if Bruce does...

 

[Evilgiraffe]

Firstly Bruce, what's the point of this post?

Taking it one section at a time

Bruce Voigt Science??? Hmmmmmmmm

Just try suggesting to anyone that the City or Government add salt to the asphalt that paves our highways and byways and they will tell you your crazy and explain that any salt will just be washed away. End of story!

Well then along comes a guy like me and gives a little thought to such things as;

The highways guys are right but, never mind, onwards!

Posted: Jan 25 2007, 02:59 AM
AURA OF SALT
Think about this one: a fisherman spreads, unevenly if I might mention, a layer of salt over fish, layer upon layer. When you watch this you realize that the preservative (salt) does not penetrate the fish to leave a salt taste,

Are you sure about that?

Posted: Dec 25 2006, 07:06 PM
#2-- Take two frozen steaks out of the freezer and place one on the counter the other in a non heated aluminum fry pan. Its just like magic, after just a few minutes the bottom side of the steak in the fry pan is thawed, turn and in just a few more minutes its ready to cook, the steak on the counter is still frozen solid. A few more examples, frozen turkey submerged in cold water, salt on a icy road etc.

Well done! You've discovered that aluminium has a higher conductivity than your counter top and can transfer heat into the steak more efficiently, leading to faster defrosting. Similarly, water has a higher heat transfer rate than air, hence your turkey defrosts faster.

Salt on an icy road defrosts by a different mechanism however. It depresses the freezing point so that water becomes liquid. Interested readers may want to study up on Raoult's Law^WP.

Posted: Dec 26 2006, 02:17 PM
As it took a hammer to initiate an orbit direction change in the steel it took the aura of aluminum to change the chaotic nuclei orbit of the frozen water cell of the steak. This allowed the many cold producing nuclei to again form a minimal cold producing cell (thawing).

Word salad.

It only takes two magnets to demonstrate Aura! The mosquito flying in the rain has no concern as its aura is repelling the aura of the rain drop (auto pilot).

More word salad.

Making a snow ball forces the repelling aura (nuclei) of the snow flake to conform to a same orbit state causing the many cold producing poles to again become a minimal cold producing cell (water).

Posted: Dec 31 2006, 10:28 AM
The reaction of light has changed or caused chaotic movement having the nuclei of the flowers cells running into each other and the cells aura is repelling the aura of other repelling aura opening the flower. With out this reaction (night) the orbiting cell nuclei regroup into same orbit direction and now being attracted to each other close the flower. Its just a reaction that closes the Venus fly trap etc etc.

This is just getting silly now.

I really don't need to mention the tremendous amount of heart ache, icy roads cause.
I do my little simple experiments, like when snow is expected, place a fry pan out side, a shaving of asphalt placed on a plate of salt in a plastic bag. These experiments tell me that if salt was added to the make up of asphalt that it would be the aura of salt pregnated deep into the roadway to be a permanent solution to icy roads.

OK realisticly you can't go out and replace all the roads but it would be so simple to add a thin layer of salt treated asphalt.

Impregnating salt into road surfaces will work to prevent icing.... once. After that the salt will be washed away and you're back where you started. It will also be vastly more expensive than simply spreading grit/salt when the weather turns inclement.

Not so much science as largely incoherent ramblings. Thanks for playing Bruce.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Stop it you guys. You apparently live in the same Universe that I do.

You do not live in the same one that Bruce does so that anything we say has no relevance to his world.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

This will sound like an oxymoran but I Bruce Voigt have discovered FIRE.

Knowing what FIRE "really is" I concluded that in watching a ufo ORB (Buckyball) you are watching and in some cases communicating in a primitive way with the entity FIRE.

There is no such thing as lighter than air.

I have heard the cracking of Earths aura (AURA borealis).
We all have smelled the AURA-oma of food.
Some have seen the aura of a desert mirage, seen and felt (cold) the aura of ghost, heard the echo of sound. What we have all seen but not understood is the Earths Aura.

Salt in roads, not on
Aura of salt within road material will interact with the Earths excreting force and a salt aura will waft from its surface.
My experiments incorporate one part salt mixed into ten parts asphalt and the same with concrete.

Obtaining two containers of asphalt, salt was mixed on the spot with one container the other being the control. They were placed in the freezer over night and that AM a 1/2 teaspoon of water was added to both. Checking moments later, water of the control was frozen and the experiment was not. This you would expect of surface salt so as the days of successful experiments went by I thought (because I could not compact the asphalt) that water added may be seeping, mixing with embedded salt. This laid false after acquiring containers of cement. I had asked if this cement would be used as road material and was advised that it was the same mix used on one of Vancouvers bridges.

To hurry experiments I was placing the containers in the Sun and discovered that when dry the surface of the experiment was no longer black but white with salt crystals.
This became an experiment and each evening would wipe the crystals away with a damp cloth, add a teaspoon of water and next day in the Sun, walla a white surface of salt.

Recently adding a tablespoon of water to both experiment and control and a short time in the freezer. Ninety percent of this water is poured out of the experiment container and only ten percent from the control (frozen). The same results with concrete except you have to look closly to see the salt crystals. Also discovered that the salt added to the concrete turned it a much darker grey.

Out of these experiments I have also discovered that with both asphalt and concrete the experiments and not the controls produce dew on both dew and none dew mornings.

 

[John Jones]

Salt would weaked the concrete and asphalt and require resurfacing of the road more frequently that not adding salt.

Nature doesn't deliver water a tablespon at a time. Record the amount of salt added to the asphalt, and then leave it exposed to a couple of good rainstorms.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

Salt would weaked the concrete and asphalt and require resurfacing of the road more frequently that not adding salt.

Nature doesn't deliver water a tablespon at a time. Record the amount of salt added to the asphalt, and then leave it exposed to a couple of good rainstorms.

Oh, so some one else "has" added salt to a road surface, could you give me a name?
I have a garden hose handy and after finishing my planned experiments will create heavy rain, thanks for that.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Oh, so some one else "has" added salt to a road surface, could you give me a name?
I have a garden hose handy and after finishing my planned experiments will create heavy rain, thanks for that.

For a name try Papa Smurf.

The exposed salt in the asphalt will wash away. The unexposed will not interact with the ice.

At least in our Universe, Bruce.

 

[Complexity]

What a peculiar thread.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

What a peculiar thread.

Well, I'm enjoying it.

Not sure about Bruce though.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

experiment 401 -- Find a black or dark colored plate. Place 10 grains of salt at the center. Create or live in a camper to establish fluctuating temperature. You will notice that the grains meld into a drop of water. This drop will then turn to grains of salt. Now count the grains and you will find a few extra grains. Monitoring this and as months pass you will find that salt covers the whole plate. Take note that the space between each grain is the same (that damn AURA again!)

Would it not be nice to understand new true science of why and how things are attracted and stick to each other, really simple STUPH! (not complicated at all)

Explaining why the quark, molecule, cell, atom, magnetism etc attract and repel would soon have eyes glazing over. I will make it real simple for you to understand why bread crumbs don't stick to the plate yet toast crumbs and egg do, why snow flakes and rain drops are separated.

OK this is what you do. Sit your-self down in front of the six o'clock news and take note of the weather report. Animation shows the high pressure area (clockwise) and close by will be a low pressure (counter clock wise). If you look carefully its easy to see the forces of the low melding into the forces of the high (attracting). Looking closer, take note that the forces of the high and low merge into a figure 8 and thats how every natural thing having multiple orbits is held together. Look for two highs or two lows and you can see where the forces are running into each other (repelling).

Take this to the smallness of the quark or the hugeness of the heavens and Bobs your uncle!

 

[Bruce Voigt]

So with the aura of salt interacting with the aura of water hindering freezing or put more simply that time and temperature being the same a lake would freeze over but an ocean would not.

It will take a conglomerate to do the proper testing but with the experiments I have done I am more than confident that their findings will be positive.

No need to mention the ramifications the likes of lives saved, environmental salt damage etc but with any up side there are downers. In trying to remove salt crystals with a tooth brush sun light showed tiny particles of salt and I think this would be a constant emission of treated highways causing rust to vehicles as the ocean does to boats.

People killed in a car crash or a rotten car, I'll take the rotten car any old time.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

 

[Complexity]

experiment 401

Nonsense times 401.

This is what happens when one retires without adequate preparation.

 

[John Jones]

experiment 401 -- Find a black or dark colored plate. Place 10 grains of salt at the center. Create or live in a camper to establish fluctuating temperature. You will notice that the grains meld into a drop of water. This drop will then turn to grains of salt. Now count the grains and you will find a few extra grains. Monitoring this and as months pass you will find that salt covers the whole plate. Take note that the space between each grain is the same (that damn AURA again!)

More precise measurements than 'a few grains' are needed for this experiment to be meaningful. Give some masses both at the beginning and end of experiment 401, or I'll conclude you're talking about violating the conservation of matter.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

More precise measurements than 'a few grains' are needed for this experiment to be meaningful. Give some masses both at the beginning and end of experiment 401, or I'll conclude you're talking about violating the conservation of matter.

Based on my careful reading of Bruce's posts, I suggest that such foolish things as "the conservation of matter" do not exist in his universe.

 

[Bruce Voigt]

Out of these experiments I have also discovered that with both asphalt and concrete the experiments and not the controls produce dew on both dew and none dew mornings.

In the experiment the dew dews it, no need to add water. The dew tastes salty and the Sun changes the dew to salt crystals.

This and experiment 401 -- will allow your head to get around to the fact that oil grows.