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Dessi said:
Take a moment to actually read about earthquakes. The earthquake in Haiti was magnitude 7 and killed 50-85K people, its nowhere near the strongest or even the deadliest in history. There are about over a million earthquakes per year, about 20 or so which are strong or stronger than the 2010 earthquake in Haiti. In other words, earthquakes of this type happen back to back, almost every year for the whole history of planet.
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Haiti comes in 2nd with 316,000 and 1st with deaths per capita of 1 in 27.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_disasters_by_death_toll

Japan was 4th or 5th in magnitude and greatest in financial loss.

This has never happened before back to back.
 
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SezMe said:
I don't have a spirit.

This reply is way too vague. Describe specifically what happens when god is communicating with you.
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God communicates through intuition because that is how spirit communicates. God is spirit.
 
Lowpro said:
When the crap did financial loss and death toll matter?
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Great earthquake

Just focus on Japan 2011 4th greatest magnitude in history.

But back to back Haiti and Japan they are record breaking.
 
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Resistible said:
The you that you are now would have happened already so infinite regress is impossible.
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Ahh, the joys of infinity. Split it and all there is, is more infinities. But no. Amazingly enough, a me existing before the current me does not mean that infinite regress is impossible. Amazingly enough, I am not everything, nor and I arrogant enough to say that I am. I'm but an infinitesimal part of a vastly larger existence. So large, in fact, that my existence and life is as nothing. Still... here's the other thing about infinity. Combine them, and they're still infinity. You've been citing the principle that "given an infinite amount of time, all possible things will occur," so, honestly, all I need to do is to point out that before me and after me is then theoretically infinity, one single infinity, no less, and that I am, in fact, a possibility that occurred at some point. And, voila, I can exist, now, without any issue, or reason to worry about previous mes existing.

Misusing theoretical principles will get you nowhere, though. Maybe you should try for actually understanding the concepts involved?

Resistible said:
And something can't come from nothing, so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. This is whom we call God.
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No. Amazingly enough, the theoretical principle that existence had to be created has exactly the same theoretical weight as the theoretical principle that existence has always existed, despite faulty attempts like the one that you're trying to use to prove otherwise.

Also, no. That is not, in fact, who you call God, if you're a Christian. The Christian God has a LOT of attributes that are not remotely considered by this argument, which means that this concept and description of God could be applied to... say, an infinite number of other conceptions of God with equal validity. A small percentage would even have some attributes in common. However, the concepts that are claimed for the Christian God do not allow it to be the God that you argue for, no less, as I pointed out, before.

Maybe you could try a real argument, next time?
 
Flea2143 said:
From the wikipedia page you linked earlier

So no, not quite record breaking.
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Comes in 2nd not 1st. Record breaking in deaths per capita and combined with Japan 2011. Japan 2011 was record breaking greates financial loss, and 4th greatest in magnitude.
 
Resistible said:
Comes in 2nd not 1st. Record breaking in deaths per capita and combined with Japan 2011. Japan 2011 was record breaking greates financial loss, and 4th greatest in magnitude.
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Comes in third actually, and the numbers on that page don't match the numbers on the page for the Haitian earthquake alone (316,000 on the linked page vs 215,000 on the page devoted to the earthquake). Also, where does the per capita number come from, I've been searching for it and coming up empty-handed.
ETA: sorry. the 215,000 number is on the wiki page for Haiti, not the earthquake
 
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Flea2143 said:
Comes in third actually, and the numbers on that page don't match the numbers on the page for the Haitian earthquake alone (316,000 on the linked page vs 215,000 on the page devoted to the earthquake). Also, where does the per capita number come from, I've been searching for it and coming up empty-handed.
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I was taking the minimum number so Haiti is 2nd most deaths in history. Haiti would know. Truly a great earthquake.
 
Resistible said:
I was taking the minimum number so Haiti is 2nd most deaths in history. Haiti would know. Truly a great earthquake.
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Wikipedia said:
Edmond Mulet, UN Assistant Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Operations, said, "I do not think we will ever know what the death toll is from this earthquake", while the director of the Haitian Red Cross, Guiteau Jean-Pierre, noted that his organization had not had the time to count bodies, as their focus had been on the treatment of survivors.The United States Agency for International Development concluded that the death toll was somewhere between 46,000 and 85,000
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I'm not denying that it was devastating in any way, but the numbers might not be entirely accurate.
 
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Resistible said:
"According to official estimates, 316,000 people killed, 300,000 injured, 1.3 million displaced, 97,294 houses destroyed and 188,383 damaged in the Port-au-Prince area and in much of southern Haiti."
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From the same website:
Other estimates suggest substantially lower numbers of casualties, perhaps as low as fewer than 100,000.
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And don't forget most deaths per capita of 1 in 27.
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I still can't find anywhere that this number is mentioned, could you be kind enough to point it out for me?
 
Resistible said:
Other religions can't prove their claims. Whereas in Christianity the proof is the testimony of the dsiciples seeing Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings. No naturalistic explanation can account for this.
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This post is faulty, except maybe, maybe, for the first sentence. But sure, why not? You realize that if we accepted the level of "proof" that you offer as proof, we would have to accept the "proof" of a rather remarkable number of other claims, most of which are completely and wholly incompatible with Christianity?
 
Flea2143 said:
I still can't find anywhere that this number is mentioned, could you be kind enough to point it out for me?
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Divide through by the population level.

Until you can disprove the official number of 316,000 we will stay at that number.
 
Aridas said:
This post is faulty, except maybe, maybe, for the first sentence. But sure, why not? You realize that if we accepted the level of "proof" that you offer as proof, we would have to accept the "proof" of a rather remarkable number of other claims, most of which are completely and wholly incompatible with Christianity?
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There is no better proof than the testimony of the disciples who spent 3 years with Jesus and set up the churches based on their eyewitness testimony. Since group hallucinations are impossible and people don't willingly die for what they know is a lie, you can be sure Jesus raised Himself from the dead.
 
Resistible said:
I was taking the minimum number so Haiti is 2nd most deaths in history. Haiti would know. Truly a great earthquake.
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And as Pat Robertson explained in a 700 Club broadcast:
They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III, or whatever.
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It was Napoleon I, but, hey, nobody's infallible.
And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal [...] ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after the other.
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Pat knows what deals they're making in Hell, but he doesn't know something that half a minute on the Internet would have enlightened him about.
 
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