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We Are Change Beijing

Scott Sommers

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Scott Sommers
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If you look at the WAC map on their master website
http://www.wearechange.org/wacc.html
you'll find a WAC chapter for Beijing. They don't seem to have their own website or Facebook club. WAC lists an e-mail, but when I Googled it, there were no hits.

Do you think I should write the police in Beijing and report them as a subversive group?
 
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No. No matter how repugnant their views, there is no need to give a lead to the thugs that enforce the laws over there.
 
2 years ago i was debating the steel shipped to china fantasy with a truther from hong kong, i told him if the cd was true and the steel was shipped to china then the chinese are in on the conspiracy because they would have found evidence of a cd and covered it up for reasons unknown, the next day his account was closed and i never heard from him again, i wonder if the chinese government closed him down and barred him from the net?
 
No. No matter how repugnant their views, there is no need to give a lead to the thugs that enforce the laws over there.
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Honestly, I'm not so sure about that. These guys are the scum bags of the Earth in my min.

Any Truthers here care to dissuade me from writing the Beijing police?

cyclonic said:
2 years ago i was debating the steel shipped to china fantasy with a truther from hong kong, i told him if the cd was true and the steel was shipped to china then the chinese are in on the conspiracy because they would have found evidence of a cd and covered it up for reasons unknown, the next day his account was closed and i never heard from him again, i wonder if the chinese government closed him down and barred him from the net?
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It's doubtful that anyone in HK would have a problem over this. My guess is that Commies would be a little less happy knowing they were part of a global conspiracy run by the Jews in Isreal. The idea of Islamic terrorism is less popular in China than it is in the USA because it's linked with an independence movement. I think WAC - Beijing might have some trouble explaining that Islamic fundamentalism really is that bad afterall.
 
cyclonic said:
2 years ago i was debating the steel shipped to china fantasy with a truther from hong kong, i told him if the cd was true and the steel was shipped to china then the chinese are in on the conspiracy because they would have found evidence of a cd and covered it up for reasons unknown, the next day his account was closed and i never heard from him again, i wonder if the chinese government closed him down and barred him from the net?
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what do you mean? WTC steel has been recycled in China.
 
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worse than the Chinese Government?
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The Commies have more than a thousand misles pointed at me. I hate them and if there was a war, I would stay and fight. Taiwan is not China. Taiwan is an indepedent country. I hate Communism.

But WAC likes to play political criminal in the safest and freest country in the world. A bunch of Ron Paul American kids get on the net and trick left-wing kids in other countries that believing in their horse crap of an idea is fighting American imperialism - whatever that means.

I'd like them to find out what it really means to live in a place where the government kills people who oppose them.
 
I'm confused. Are you saying that "WAC Beijing" is not made up of people in Beijing? If it is, as I said earlier, leave them alone.
 
cyclonic said:
2 years ago i was debating the steel shipped to china fantasy with a truther from hong kong, i told him if the cd was true and the steel was shipped to china then the chinese are in on the conspiracy because they would have found evidence of a cd and covered it up for reasons unknown, the next day his account was closed and i never heard from him again, i wonder if the chinese government closed him down and barred him from the net?
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Probably a coincidence. Or maybe he was from somewhere else pretending to be here so he could maybe claim he knew about the shipping channels for the steel, or to give himself credibility.

I know some major lunatic nutbars here who have global access to the web and no one does a thing. Public internet access in Hong Kong is fairly uncensored. I've never found a site I can't get to. (Well, from work - dozens of them, but that's our net nannies. From home or from any pay services in web cafes? Never been blocked.)
 
@Scott.

I haven't heard that kind of rhetoric since the chest-thumpers (all expats) at the Green Bar used to analyse Jane's BoS and argue about how badly the Taiwanese would beat the Mainlanders if it came to a shootin' war. (I gave up on them because they didn't like my answer: You don't start a shooting war, no matter how much technology you think you have, with a country that can get to your island by simply having the army link arms and walk across!)

There ain't gonna be no war, so you can turn in your WWII issue rifle and eat the tins of tuna and packets of noodles.

Why would you turn a bunch of misguided kids into the evil commie police in Beijing? That makes no sense to me, whatsoever.
 
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Probably a coincidence. Or maybe he was from somewhere else pretending to be here so he could maybe claim he knew about the shipping channels for the steel, or to give himself credibility.

I know some major lunatic nutbars here who have global access to the web and no one does a thing. Public internet access in Hong Kong is fairly uncensored. I've never found a site I can't get to. (Well, from work - dozens of them, but that's our net nannies. From home or from any pay services in web cafes? Never been blocked.)
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Thanks for that information foolmewunz.

cheers!
 
We should make them wear "Democracy For North Korea NOW! t-shirts, put a backpack full of "Team America World Police" DVDs on them and parachute them into the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
LIL ILL KIMBO will take care of them, im postive he's a lil twoofer.
 
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Why would you turn a bunch of misguided kids into the evil commie police in Beijing? That makes no sense to me, whatsoever.
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Mostly, I'd like to hear some of their answers. The scumbags have been quite for a while, but I'm sure they're still here. Ever Red Ibis reads enough newpapers to know the PRC has a handles people who don't like the government differently from the USA, even if he claims they've killed thousands in broad daylight.

We've had people here write to all sorts of government agencies to check claims made by Truthers. It's clear there are legitimate US government agents, and not just reps from the NWO, who know all about them. Why shouldn't I? Let's get some of them up here to see if they really believe the US government is as bad as they claim. Are they willing to risk their lives and their sympathizers lives with these governments? Or is it just talk that makes them feel lean and mean?
 
scott.in.taiwan said:
Why shouldn't I?
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In case my earlier posts were too obtuse - because the Chinese government is evil. Because authoritarianism in all its forms is wrong. Because people who believe stupid things should not be imprisoned and tortured.

Do you understand the point I'm making now?

Paraphrasing what I just wrote on another thread, the authoritarian fantasies of some would-be liberals is frightening to me.
 
carlitos said:
In case my earlier posts were too obtuse - because the Chinese government is evil. Because authoritarianism in all its forms is wrong. Because people who believe stupid things should not be imprisoned and tortured.

Do you understand the point I'm making now?

Paraphrasing what I just wrote on another thread, the authoritarian fantasies of some would-be liberals is frightening to me.
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That keeps me safe. I'm not a would-be liberal. Or is it that you're talking about someone else? In fact, I think Truthers are just as evil. On many occassions, I have said they should be in jail because they are a public menace and what stops this from happening is the thing they claim doesn't exist in the USA.

But a better answer would be the first sentence to my last post.
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz
Why would you turn a bunch of misguided kids into the evil commie police in Beijing? That makes no sense to me, whatsoever.
Originally Posted by Scott.in.Taiwan
Mostly, I'd like to hear some of their answers.
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Doesn't it seem in the slightest bit strange it's not the Truthers themselves here?
 
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scott.in.taiwan said:
The Commies have more than a thousand misles pointed at me. I hate them and if there was a war, I would stay and fight. Taiwan is not China. Taiwan is an indepedent country. I hate Communism.

But WAC likes to play political criminal in the safest and freest country in the world. A bunch of Ron Paul American kids get on the net and trick left-wing kids in other countries that believing in their horse crap of an idea is fighting American imperialism - whatever that means.

I'd like them to find out what it really means to live in a place where the government kills people who oppose them.
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when you hate Communism so much, dont act like a stalinist or a Stasi officer.
 
DC said:
when you hate Communism so much, dont act like a stalinist or a Stasi officer.
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Exactly. The best counter to suppression of speech is promoting freedom of speech. It's the road that is harder to travel in repressive societies but it gives the best return in the long run if allowed to run its full course. I can see no good reason to alter that course in this case.
 
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