Was WTC-7 a Fire Hazard?

[Mr. Skinny]

Really? For how long did Larry have to pay those premiums?

I really don't know how old the building was, but guessitmating that the building was about 25 years old at the time, I'd say he paid the extra premium for that long.

Like you, I'm not trying to advance a particular theory here, just trying to add to the discussion with my former experience as a fire protction engineer for an insurance mutual. I'm also unsure of what statement, if any, you were trying to make in the OP.

I'm just trying to say if it was a poor fire insurance risk, he would have paid for it.

Open to any questions on this subject, though I must admit my experience in this area is 30 years old.

 

[LashL]

The Port Authority owned the land on which WTC 7 was built. Because of this ownership WTC 7 was not subject to the requirements of the NYC Building Code.

Ahh, how fortuitous. I just posted above on this very issue in response to a post by gumboot, and I asked if he could provide the primary sources that confer the exemptions at issue upon the PANYNJ, so that I could read them in order to provide a properly informed answer to his questions, but it appears from your post that you may have at hand the sources that I referred to.

So, can you please provide links to the primary sources that exempt PANYNJ from the provisions of the NYC building and fire codes so that I (and other interested parties) can read them in order to try to answer definitively the questions raised above?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Apollo20]

Well I'm just getting info from the book "Grand Illusion - The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11" by W. Barrett and D. Collins. In a footnote to chapter 6 we have:

"In response to a freedom of information request, the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, the Office of Management and Budget, the Department of City Planning, and the Corporation Counsel of the City of New York turned over hundreds of documents related to the rental and construction of space at WTC 7 for the Emergency Operations Center. Con Ed and its attorneys also supplied some records ....."

That's all I have... nothing from the PANYNJ unfortunately!

 

[Pardalis]

Seriously, where's the conspiracy here?

 

[Apollo20]

I would say it's Larry and Rudy's nice little deal to locate the OEM on the 23rd floor of WTC 7!

 

[Pardalis]

I said seriously.

 

[LashL]

Well I'm just getting info from the book "Grand Illusion - The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11" by W. Barrett and D. Collins. In a footnote to chapter 6 we have:

"In response to a freedom of information request, the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, the Office of Management and Budget, the Department of City Planning, and the Corporation Counsel of the City of New York turned over hundreds of documents related to the rental and construction of space at WTC 7 for the Emergency Operations Center. Con Ed and its attorneys also supplied some records ....."

Thanks, but that does not address the question about whether PANYNJ's exemption from local codes extends to all buildings situated on PANYNJ-owned lands regardless of ownership or control of the buildings (e.g. WTC7) or whether it applies only to those buildings owned, managed or controlled by PANYNJ.

In your prior post to which I replied, you stated that because WTC7 was built upon land owned by PANYNJ, it was exempt from the local codes. That is why I thought you might be able to provide a primary source that addresses the point.

That's all I have... nothing from the PANYNJ unfortunately!

So that it's clear, I am not looking for something from PANYNJ. Rather, what I'm after is the primary source (i.e. legislation) that exempts PANYNJ from compliance with NYC building and fire codes.

I am sure that I can find it but I thought that you may have already read it, in light of your prior post above. I see now that was not the case, but thanks anyway.

Although there appears to be no conspiracy involved, and although the matter may be of little practical significance, it has made me curious so I'll look into it.