Was Hitler a coward?

Waite, who authored an extensive psychohistory of Hitler, concluded that he suffered from borderline personality disorder, which manifested its symptoms in numerous ways and would imply Hitler was in full control of himself and his actions. Others have proposed he may have been schizophrenic, based on claims that he was hallucinating and delusional during his last year of life. If true, this might be explained by a series of brief reactive psychoses in a narcissistic personality which could not withstand being confronted with reality (in this case that he was not the "superman" or "savior of Germany" he envisioned, as his plans and apparent early achievements collapsed about him). In addition, his regular methamphetamine use and possible sleep deprivation in the last, highly stressful period of his life must be factored into any speculation as to the cause of his possible psychotic symptoms as these two activities are known to trigger psychotic reactions in some individuals. However, Hitler never visited a psychiatrist, and under current methodology, any such diagnosis is speculation.
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Full source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_medical_health
 
NoZed Avenger said:
Is there a new corollary to Godwin's Rule that now invovles Bush?

If not, may I propose it?
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Oliver said:
You can start a thread about "Is Bush a coward". Might get
a funny discussion. Anyway - I never mentioned his name in
here until you did.
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I think it should be called Oliver's Corollary to Godwin's Rule, for obvious reasons.

And Oliver, your comment is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Who else might you have been referring to as playing dressup-as-a-pilot? At least be honest.
 
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Cainkane1 said:
Hitler was clearly a psychopath. Psychopaths usually feel less fear than the general population. One way to describe courage is the ability to act effectively in the presence of fear but if you are born with an inability to be afraid in the first place you act accordingly. To say or suggest that Hitler was not a coward is to also suggest that a serial killer is not cowardly even though they are despicable examples of humanity. Hitler fell into this category. A murderer who felt no remorse or fear of consequences for his actions. He may not have been a coward but he was certainly no hero.
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I agree. Hitler was mentally ill (in his later days, debilitatingly so). Normal appelations like "brave" or "cowardly" don't apply. His psychopathy meant that he misunderstood the information he was presented with and his sociopathy meant that he processed the information wrong once he got it. He made bad decisions about wrong information. Only God himself knows what Hitler's character could have been like if he had not been nuts.
 
Oliver said:
Not true. He was a coward and a weak person internally. He
compensated this by exactly this kind of behavior Hitler is
beloved these days. Never confuse someone's strong appearance
with someone's weak mind - or people get another Hitler one day.
Same goes to playing big-balled Macho in a Pilot-Jumpsuit.
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How can you consider Hitler weak minded? He wrote a book and developed a new social and political philosophy for Aryan mankind.
 
Cainkane1 said:
Hitler was clearly a psychopath. Psychopaths usually feel less fear than the general population. One way to describe courage is the ability to act effectively in the presence of fear but if you are born with an inability to be afraid in the first place you act accordingly. To say or suggest that Hitler was not a coward is to also suggest that a serial killer is not cowardly even though they are despicable examples of humanity. Hitler fell into this category. A murderer who felt no remorse or fear of consequences for his actions. He may not have been a coward but he was certainly no hero.
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I think one could argue that Hitler was indeed a hero. He fought for what he believed and fought against the odds.
 
MaGZ said:
How can you consider Hitler weak minded? He wrote a book and developed a new social and political philosophy for Aryan mankind.
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MaGZ said:
I think one could argue that Hitler was indeed a hero. He fought for what he believed and fought against the odds.
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I also looked at various other posts you made, MaGZ. Consider yourself lucky that this forum is hosted in the United States and protected by free speech.
 
MaGZ said:
I think one could argue that Hitler was indeed a hero. He fought for what he believed and fought against the odds.
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Yes, Hitler heroically separated terrified children from their equally terrified mothers. And because they were too young to work in the labor camps, he heroically sent them straight to the gas chambers.
 
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MaGZ said:
He wrote a book
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A book of complete paranoid nonsense.


and developed a new social and political philosophy for Aryan mankind
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...that utterly failed, destroyed the nation of Germany, enshrined his philosophy as the single stupidest in human history and made his adherants into laughingstocks the whole world wide.
 
Loss Leader said:
A book of complete paranoid nonsense.


...that utterly failed, destroyed the nation of Germany, enshrined his philosophy as the single stupidest in human history and made his adherants into laughingstocks the whole world wide.
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Actually, no.

Germany was already destroyed post-WWI, he helped make it a superpower in a little time period.

Stop looking at this issue like ''omg hitler killed jews etc everything he did was bad'', look at it objectively. He was a great leader for Germany, whether you personally do not agree with his ideas is another matter.

Also, to the person saying he was weak minded...he had more willpower than you will ever have, he not only led an entire country out of a gigantic depression, but also gave the world a run for its money.

I personally do not agree with his beliefs although i am tired of all the pro-jewish pity me media coverage and the forcing of pro-zionist literature such as Night(which has no place even being called literature) upon students.
 
Zenskeptical said:
Germany was already destroyed post-WWI
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BS.

Zenskeptical said:
Stop looking at this issue like ''omg hitler killed jews etc everything he did was bad'', look at it objectively. He was a great leader for Germany, whether you personally do not agree with his ideas is another matter.
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BS.

Zenskeptical said:
Also, to the person saying he was weak minded...he had more willpower than you will ever have, he not only led an entire country out of a gigantic depression, but also gave the world a run for its money.

I personally do not agree with his beliefs although i am tired of all the pro-jewish pity me media coverage and the forcing of pro-zionist literature such as Night(which has no place even being called literature) upon students.
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We call that kind of thinking Neonazi in Germany.
 
Zenskeptical said:
Stop looking at this issue like ''omg hitler killed jews etc everything he did was bad'', look at it objectively. He was a great leader for Germany, whether you personally do not agree with his ideas is another matter.
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You're going to have to define what constitutes being great.

While waiting for your definition, I would say that he certainly wasn't great prior to WWII for those on his list of folks he didn't like or think worthwhile. After the war starts, his leadership wasn't particularly great. He appointed a number of absolute incompetents to head up parts of his administration (Goering was a complete disaster as head of the Luftwaffe, for example), often refused to listen to sound counsel from some his advisors, and made many military decisions which were terrible tactical and/or strategic blunders.
 
wahrheit said:
BS.


BS.



We call that kind of thinking Neonazi in Germany.
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I'd advise you to read some of your country's own history and the multitude of problems that it faced after WWI.

Anyone can make a ''BS'' comment, prove me wrong or kindly leave.
 
Corsair 115 said:
You're going to have to define what constitutes being great.

While waiting for your definition, I would say that he certainly wasn't great prior to WWII for those on his list of folks he didn't like or think worthwhile. After the war starts, his leadership wasn't particularly great. He appointed a number of absolute incompetents to head up parts of his administration (Goering was a complete disaster as head of the Luftwaffe, for example), often refused to listen to sound counsel from some his advisors, and made many military decisions which were terrible tactical and/or strategic blunders.
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Great is definetely a tricky thing to define, but i have always belived you do not have to be ''good'' to be great, you just have to do something that is extra-ordinary.

Hitler did make a lot of mistakes mainly at the end of the campaign, he took more strategic control from his generals(who were for the most part more than competant) and made the calls himself.
Hitler was definetely no tacital genius.
 
Zenskeptical said:
I'd advise you to read some of your country's own history and the multitude of problems that it faced after WWI.
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1. I know enough about the history of Germany, I do not need your advice.

2. "facing problems" does not equal "already destroyed".
 
Zenskeptical said:
Great is definetely a tricky thing to define, but i have always belived you do not have to be ''good'' to be great, you just have to do something that is extra-ordinary.
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Yes, but that doesn't answer my question. How are you defining great? You said he was a great leader for Germany. Please explain how you arrived at that conclusion.
 
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