Warning: Jackchit threatens Gravy!

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westprog said:
We know the kind of views they have on evidence. Jackchit just looks for the person he's been persecuting.

I don't find it that shocking that Jackchit would behave like this. It is disturbing that afaict not one of the LC posters has any problem with what he posted. And they don't see "last thing you'll ever see" as being threatening.
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Well it's not like he said he'd "pull" him.
 
Jaguar said:
I notice nobody here has commented on the fact that this forum sent social services round to this guys hous and they left satisfied with what they saw.
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Do you have any proof that it was someone from this forum?

I don't know how it's handled in the UK but in the US certain professions (doctors, nurses, teachers) are mandatory reporters, meaning they are legally obligated to report suspected child abuse. If they don't then they can be held libel.

Of course mandatory reporters in the US have no obligation regarding what goes on in the UK and I doubt UK social services would be too concerned with a tip from "a yank".

If you visit his website you'll see that he's already made quite a few enemies, none having to do with 9/11.
 
I also dont think the idiots over there realize that if something happens to Gravy, as a result, the police can force the ISP to provide the personal details of those who "cheered him on".

TAM:(
 
How on earth could you NOT take this as a threat?

here is what I intend to do, I am visiting NYC in the next few months and will be actively seeking out gravy
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Mark…. I know you read this forum so bear this in mind, one day whilst you are showing people around the city you will see lots of pairs of eyes but one day you will look into a pair of eyes that will be mine and you know instantly that you will never forget my eyes because they will be the last thing you see.
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I know you don’t have children because lets face it who would reproduce with such a cretin, so you cannot even comprehend my resolve.
You **** with my family….game over, so be vigilant.
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So j-ref’rs are you mice or men, oh and gravy……see you real soon..
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Whether or not you actually believe he is going to follow through, is sort of beside the point.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Do you have any proof that it was someone from this forum?

I don't know how it's handled in the UK but in the US certain professions (doctors, nurses, teachers) are mandatory reporters, meaning they are legally obligated to report suspected child abuse. If they don't then they can be held libel.

Of course mandatory reporters in the US have no obligation regarding what goes on in the UK and I doubt UK social services would be too concerned with a tip from "a yank".

If you visit his website you'll see that he's already made quite a few enemies, none having to do with 9/11.
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While the law doesnt address internet threats, as far as I know, you are correct. If this guy were in Canada, I would have been required by law to report it to the proper authorities if I felt he was a threat to his children. His rights are superseded by the rights of the childs right to protection from harm.

As he was from the UK, I had no responsibility legally to do so. Though I was tempted to find out where he lived and do so...I did not.

What Jackchit fails to realise is that if they were called it was for the benefit of the children. In a way I am sure he can never fatholm, the person who called was likely doing so out of the goodness of their hearts.

Sad really.

TAM:(
 
Anti-sophist said:
That's where he stopped reading. After all, "jref" is the one who called the cops on him. He has exactly as much evidence against you as he does against Gravy.
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Roger your last.

And if some knucklehead who happens to post at the JREF forum is hassling this guy - then JackChit deals with that person specifically. Cowardly behavior to transfer his ire to Mark Roberts. Worse than cowardly to threaten Mark with death. Lunacy to broad brush all JREFers.
 
do not forget that an assault, a threat, is determined by how it is percieved by the recipient, not the threatener.

TAM
 
The bizarre part is how the simpletons there just assume Gravy called Social Services when even jackchit admits in his opening post that he's only going after Gravy because he blames "jref" and gravy "seems to be the spiritual leader".

What we have here is a whole bunch of people with their mental problems on full display.
 
Man you guys are easy.
Since when does anyone believe anything that guy says.
Does he even have kids, or a wife who has passed?
What makes you think social services actually visited his house?
Evidence before conclusions.
 
I thnk if Jackchit is really a man, and not a psychopath or mental child, he should simply post a public withdrawl of his threats, make a statement about how angry is that this happened, and simply drop it.

I know this won't likely happen, but I feel he is going down a path he will not be able to come back from.

And if he carries out on his threats, he will guarantee that the "break up" of his family will occur, as he will go to prison, and the break up will be his fault.

very sad

TAM
 
pchams said:
Man you guys are easy.
Since when does anyone believe anything that guy says.
Does he even have kids, or a wife who has passed?
What makes you think social services actually visited his house?
Evidence before conclusions.
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Now, That is the textbook example of a "Straw Man" argument.
Whether or not he was visited, or has kids, or is a widow is totally irrelevant to the argument at hand.
 
pchams said:
Man you guys are easy.
Since when does anyone believe anything that guy says.
Does he even have kids, or a wife who has passed?
What makes you think social services actually visited his house?
Evidence before conclusions.
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I wouldn't believe one word that Jackchit says. It's quite likely that everything he's written is a complete lie.

The fact remains that he declared his intention to go to New York and murder a tour guide. That's a very, very serious matter.
 
rwguinn said:
Now, That is the textbook example of a "Straw Man" argument.
Whether or not he was visited, or has kids, or is a widow is totally irrelevant to the argument at hand.
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No it isn't.
Everyone is getting worked up about a threat from an UNPROVEN source.
I followed the original thread, and there is no evidence that this guy even has
kids, much less that he was visited by the authorities.
Sounds more like an expert forum wind up that is working perfectly.
I'll admit that the threat is wrong, and probably illegal, and Do-over Dylan's response
is unbelievable, but I highly doubt that the threat is real.
I think he is taking you guys for a ride.
 
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