Warning: Jackchit threatens Gravy!

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I've been trying - largely for their own good - to tell Jackchit, Avery and their cheering pack to calm down and to consider what they are doing. Naturally I've been banned.

They now seem to be trying to forget the whole thing ever happened. Jackchit keeps digging though.
 
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boloboffin said:
Yes, I am taking Jackchit's word for it that he was visited by Social Services. I am also taking Jack's word for it that he has an ex-wife who died and that her death removed a barrier to raising his children as he saw fit, for which he was grateful. I am taking his word on it that he was grateful, as well.

I'm also taking people at their word that they were going to call Social Services when they said they were going to. I'm also taking Jack's word for it that he means to inflict serious harm on a poster here who hasn't the remotest connection to the entire spectacle.

Taking people's word for what they are doing is the only thing we can do on the Internet. I have zero reason to doubt anybody's word in this affair, even the crackpot conspiracy theorist.

So I retract nothing.
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I did find your comment about my motives somewhat petty in light of the errors in your post. The one part you should consider retracting is taking the leap of faith required in rationalizing JC's actions and blaming people from here [with no evidence] for it ricocheting onto Mark.

JC picked Mark as he is a prominent figure within the JREF conspiracy forum and has debunked many Cters claims that of which JC clings to. There is no rational behavior in justifying a threat of harm to Gravy or anyone from a thread in which he did not participate in -- yet more endearing character traits from JC.

I have zero reason to doubt anybody's word in this affair, even the crackpot conspiracy theorist.
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You do know that JC has a tendency to go around forums telling lies and indulging in defamation: MRGS on myspace as an example?

He has lied on more than on occasion about people being dead over at LCF.

I would say you have more reasons to doubt the word of someone like JC, than to believe them. JC is clearly unstable and known for telling lies and engaging in defamation of character with yet more falsehoods.

Very trustworthy, eh?

You're entitled to your own opinion and as we did in the original thread, it looks like will have to agree to differ on this it would seem.

ETA: I should also note boloboffin, that in the original thread about JC, I never said I believed what was allegedly wrote by JC, only that if true I think he provides an unhealthy and inappropriate environment for kids imo. His latest behavior in issuing death threats on anyone he chooses and justifying it with yet more irrational behavior, does nothing to change my opinion.

I appreciate your words LashL.
 
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rwguinn said:
So, I'm trying to figure out why he blames Gravy?
Someone else started that thread here.
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I don't know who started the thread, but I'd say that next to Gravy I'm one of the next most likely in line. The difference beng of course that he doesn't know my real name or where I live, so I don't feel at all threatened.

I was one of the people who was vocally for social services visiting this man. I stated then that if they found everything to be in order there that I would be satisfied that everything was in order, as they are the professionals in this area.

After seeing this, I would like to admit I was wrong. Jackchit may be a very persuasive person in the flesh, enough to convince social services of his fitness as a parent.

Quite frankly, whoever it was who anonymously suggested SS pay him a visit in the first place, I would highly recommend forwarding this to them. This man is highly disturbed. Simple as that. Something must be done.

And Mark, I doubt you have anything to be worried about. But be careful nonetheless.
 
Minadin said:
Tonicblue, who was recently suspended here (mysteriously), weighs in:

tonicblue said:
Jackchit it was Mobyseven behind the social services call. I argued about it with him at jref.

I also sent an email to James Randi himself in which I told him what his forum was planning to do. I recieved no reply from Randi and was promptly suspended at JREF without reason.

I am 100% behind you on this. Gravy is scum. The world would be better without him.
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I can only wonder what was contained in that email to Mr. Randi, if he's the sort of person who is willing to openly advocate the murder of a private citizen on an internet forum. Classy.
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Well...as I said.

Though I'm actually a bit surprised Jackchit hadn't already mentioned me in that thread. As I said - it's probably because he's all talk and it's hard to sound big when you don't know someone's real name or location.
 
Bobert said:
Dylan is a complete scumbag and Jackchit needs to face the police and lots of bullets from the police.
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Don't lower yourself to their level. It isn't worth it.

ETA - And don't forget that there are children involved here.
 
Mince said:
Yeah, gee. He doesn't think somebody is going to call Social Services again? And this time they have real justification and evidence.
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Can I please point out that it isn't as though there wasn't any cause for concern last time?

It's not like the issue came up because someone said, "Hey, this guy says he has kids - lets screw with him!"

The issue came up because there was a genuine concern for the welfare of the children, one that in my opinion has not at all subsided.
 
What is the matter with you guys?

One of the kooks in the truth movement makes some internet threats against one of your heroes. And you make a big deal out of it?
 
HeyLeroy said:
Headhunter said:
Someone mentioned his user name over there. What else can be found out about him?
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Anyone else besides me grabbing screencaps?
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Er...can I have a look at those screenshots?

As far as I've seen in the screenshots so far I'm the only other name that has been mentioned, and I'd be curious just to know if it's me they're talking about there.
 
As far as I know, TB was suspended because he was dishonest in his registration and later banned for using a sock puppet.

I doubt anyone here called Social Services. Is there any actual proof he has children, because from his posts and antics online he seems very immature? I would place his mental age around 13, and that's being generous.
 
pagan said:
What is the matter with you guys?

One of the kooks in the truth movement makes some internet threats against one of your heroes. And you make a big deal out of it?
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Would you make a big deal if a clearly insane person threatened to kill someone you knew?
 
Hyperviolet said:
Correction.

"A truther..... from another continent."
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A truther from another continent...who has explicitly stated that he plans to go to New York.

Also don't forget that there are people there egging him on, one who offered him a gun. While I cannot say for sure, as the number of people there who are condoning or offering to assist grows the probability that one of them is from America gets larger and larger.
 
boloboffin said:
The law of unintended consequences continues to hold true. I said over and over again for the busybodies who contacted Social Services not to do so. And now their asinine behavior has ricocheted onto Mark, who I can't even recall posting in that thread.
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You cannot reasonably expect people who are legitimately worried about the welfare of children in the care of their biological father to not at least make enquiries about it. There is no moral high ground in leaving children in a potentially dangerous situation simply because it would be frowned upon to be a 'busybody'.
 
Gravy said:
Well, this has been an interesting read. Thanks for your support, all.
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After having progressed further into this thread, I have to say - please be careful, Mark.

I'm sure that you can take care of yourself. But I must say that this worries me more than just a little bit.
 
After reading through the entire thread here (and Darat's comments) I would suggest that maybe we should leave this topic alone for a while. All that can be done, has been done, and we should no longer dwell on this.

Having said that, whoever has the screenshots of the entire thread at LCF (HeyLeroy? Pardalis?), could you please send me them as an attachment to mobyseven@gmail.com? I am a bit concerned that the other person they are looking for information about may be me, and would like to see the quotes posted here in their original context.

Thankyou.
 
Babbylonian said:
Jackchit provides a perfect example for why anonymous tips should remain anonymous. If he is serious then he'd go after anyone he feels is "against" him, whether they took real action or not. Giving such a nutbar the person who actually took action (assuming there is one, of course) could only inflame him further.
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Let's look at what's happened to the man. He's had a serious legal case against him. His wife left him, and was killed. He's had brain surgery for a tumour. (This all by his own account). He overreacts to any disagreement, and has pursued vendettas against a number of people, including fellow members of CT forums.

He's not somebody to be prodded just for the fun of it. While his behaviour is inexcusable, I've more sympathy for him than for the friends who've been cheering him on. It's like teenagers daring a friend to take another drink before he drives home. I don't think he's susceptible to reason, but I felt it necessary to try (as, to their credit, did one or two LC members, who were abused for their trouble).
 
Would it be in poor taste (no pun intended) to send Mr. Chit a box of this? This way he can add a little water...make his own Gravy...and yell at it in his own kitchen. Whatcha think?
 

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