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Hallo Alfie

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Hallo Alfie
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Post your warmer lies, propaganda and exaggerations here folks

Here's a couple to get things going.


TWO government advertisements that use nursery rhymes to warn people of the dangers of climate change have been banned by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) for exaggerating the potential harm

eta. Thanks CM, my oversight - sorry

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7061162.ece
 
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Now or Never, Professor Tim (Flannery) quotes James Hansen “who is the world’s leading thinker in this area” saying that “we are on the brink of triggering a 25 metre sea-level rise”. Tim goes onto say “So anyone with a coastal view from their bedroom or kitchen window is likely to lose their house as a result of that change”. The Australian of 5th March 2010 quotes a Tim Flannery estimate of a 60 metre sea-level rise.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2010/03/flannery-nags-launceston

Many can't even remember their own lies so make up new ones.



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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html
 
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I'm loathe to mention Al Gore's efforts but will give them a little plug here anyway.

'More Katrinas' spring to mind on that, which has become an oft repeated bit of propaganda.
 
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lol what a short list sofar. especially compared to the Deniers lies list in the other topic.
 
A.A.Alfie said:
TWO government advertisements that use nursery rhymes to warn people of the dangers of climate change have been banned by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) for exaggerating the potential harm

eta. Thanks CM, my oversight - sorry

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7061162.ece
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Not a lie or even an exaggeration. The agency merely wanted the degree of uncertainty (what 95%) added.
Times article said:
The ASA said: “All statements about future climate were based on modelled predictions, which the IPCC report itself stated still involved uncertainties in the magnitude and timing, as well as regional details, of predicted climate change.” It added that both predictions should have been phrased more tentatively.
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A.A.Alfie said:
Now or Never, Professor Tim (Flannery) quotes James Hansen “who is the world’s leading thinker in this area” saying that “we are on the brink of triggering a 25 metre sea-level rise”. Tim goes onto say “So anyone with a coastal view from their bedroom or kitchen window is likely to lose their house as a result of that change”. The Australian of 5th March 2010 quotes a Tim Flannery estimate of a 60 metre sea-level rise.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2010/03/flannery-nags-launceston
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This seems like more of a lie from a global warming denier, since we are getting, at best, third-hand hearsay from this article.
Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html
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An example of a single, lone scientists making a claim. A scientist who does not deny that those who are making the claims have an argument on which the claim of rising sea levels is based. Note that the Telegraph article contains the lie about Al Gore's 20 foot sea level rise claim.

So, yeah, a pretty thin list that shows just how good the case for the deniers is.
 
A.A.Alfie said:
I'm loathe to mention Al Gore's efforts but will give them a little plug here anyway.

'More Katrinas' spring to mind on that, which has become an oft repeated bit of propaganda.
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Oh no! Not another catagory 3? Surely you can't be serious. The "Katrina fear factor" grates on my nerves like nails on a blackboard. Either, he is making stuff up as he goes along and never actually researched a thing about it or he is counting on the ignorance of his audience. For the last time, the devastating factor about Katrina was where it hit, not how strong it was when it hit. Heck, if it hit east coast Fl, we would have yawned and stocked up on beer before the alcohol ban went into affect.
 
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Not a lie or even an exaggeration. The agency merely wanted the degree of uncertainty (what 95%) added.
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Yep..

This seems like more of a lie from a global warming denier, since we are getting, at best, third-hand hearsay from this article.
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Lol, yeah, almost definitely inaccurate. Flannery and Hansen have suggested a rise of "several metres" (by the end of the century if 'business as usual' continues I believe) is likely in their opinion--that's all I can find. Even if the article wasn't inaccurate, it wouldn't be a lie, just an implausible projection.

I see this thread becoming the "'Denier' lies about 'warmers' lying repository". :)

Not calling you a liar, btw, Alfie, just the article you posted.
 
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http://www.wwf.org.au/articles/interview-with-tim-flannery

How will Australians be affected by climate change?

TF: James Hansen - who is the world's leading thinker in this area with the Goddard Institute of NASA - believes we're on the brink of triggering a 25m rise in sea level. So anyone with a coastal view from their bedroom window or kitchen window is likely to lose their house as a result of that change. So any coastal cities, coastal areas are in grave danger.

We've already seen with changing rainfall patterns, the emerging danger to primary producers in eastern and southern Australia as the winter rainfalls are in declines. I paid $15 a kilo for bananas recently because Cyclone Larry destroyed Australia's banana crop. Just one extreme weather event of several we had last year.

So lots and lots of people are going to be losers. I don't think there are going to be terribly many winners unless they're the people who back the new energy infrastructure that is just inevitable. We have to move to that because the costs are growing by the day of the old energy infrastructure and we need to recognise that.
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It certainly sounds like he's endorsing the 25m, to me.
 
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So it could be a lie.
And from what I can gather it's not the only time he's said it either. Does it remain a mistake if he continues to repeat it?
Thanks. :)
 
"Picture an eight-storey building by a beach, then imagine waves lapping its roof."

Prof T Flannery

This sounds a lot like 25 metres to me. He said this in 2006 (I think).

Mistake my ****!:D
 
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link?

and 1 lie proofs what exactly?

is this exposing a huge conspiracy? the big Climate Change Hoax?
 
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