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Walmart Employee Trampled to Death by “Black Friday” Shoppers

Kaylee

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Sometimes I think there are too may frivolous lawsuits – but I hope the family of the dead worker sues Wal-Mart over this. They develop business practices to stir the crowds up into a frenzy … and surprise, surprise they get a frenzied crowd. No excuse for the animals that did this – but basic crowd management control techniques were not followed. Per other reports, the shoppers started waiting in line from 9p the night before in order to be able to buy select items on sale, from 5a – 10a only, the next day.


Yahoo article (no sign-in required)

A Wal-Mart worker was killed Friday when "out-of-control" shoppers desperate for bargains broke down the doors at a 5 a.m. sale. Other workers were trampled as they tried to rescue the man, and customers shouted angrily and kept shopping when store officials said they were closing because of the death, police and witnesses said.

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Nassau police said about 2,000 people were gathered outside the store doors at the mall about 20 miles east of Manhattan. The impatient crowd knocked the man, identified by police as Jdimytai Damour of Queens, to the ground as he opened the doors, leaving a metal portion of the frame crumpled like an accordion.

"This crowd was out of control," said Nassau police spokesman Lt. Michael Fleming. He described the scene as "utter chaos."

Dozens of store employees trying to fight their way out to help Damour were also getting trampled by the crowd, Fleming said.

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Police said criminal charges were possible in the case, but Fleming said it would be difficult to identify individual shoppers. Authorities were reviewing surveillance video.

The New York Times article (sign in may be required)

By 4:55, with no police officers in sight, the crowd of more than 2,000 had become a rabble, and could be held back no longer. Fists banged and shoulders pressed on the sliding-glass double doors, which bowed in with the weight of the assault. Six to 10 workers inside tried to push back, but it was hopeless.

Suddenly, witnesses and the police said, the doors shattered, and the shrieking mob surged through in a blind rush for holiday bargains. One worker, Jdimytai Damour, 34, was thrown back onto the black linoleum tiles and trampled in the stampede that streamed over and around him. Others who had stood alongside Mr. Damour trying to hold the doors were also hurled back and run over, witnesses said.

Some workers who saw what was happening fought their way through the surge to get to Mr. Damour, but he had been fatally injured, the police said. Emergency workers tried to revive Mr. Damour, a temporary worker hired for the holiday season, at the scene, but he was pronounced dead an hour later at Franklin Hospital Medical Center in Valley Stream.

Four other people, including a 28-year-old woman who was described as eight months pregnant, were treated at the hospital for minor injuries.

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Some shoppers who had seen the stampede said they were shocked. One of them, Kimberly Cribbs of Queens, said the crowd had acted like “savages.” Shoppers behaved badly even as the store was being cleared, she recalled.

“When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling, ‘I’ve been on line since yesterday morning,’ ” Ms. Cribbs told The Associated Press. “They kept shopping.”

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Wal-Mart has vigorously and successfully resisted unionization of its employees. New York State’s largest grocery union, Local 1500 of the United Food and Commercial Workers, called the death of Mr. Damour “avoidable” and demanded investigations by local prosecutors and federal and state agencies.

Where were the safety barriers?” said Bruce Both, the union president. “Where was security? How did store management not see dangerous numbers of customers barreling down on the store in such an unsafe manner? This is not just tragic; it rises to a level of blatant irresponsibility by Wal-Mart.”
 
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I really fail to see how this can be blamed on Wal-Mart. I hope they use the security camera recordings to charge the 'animals' actually responsible.

*edit* Oh I see! Because it doesn't have unions. How could I possibly not understood. Screw unions. Sorry to be so blunt but I have never, ever, had a good experience with them. It wouldn't have helped here at any rate. It would have just been a dead union work.

And of course it is the grocery union, one of the most corrupt that I've actually had experience with. They hate Wal-Mart so hard, they'll exploit any tragedy to hit them.
 
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I really fail to see how this can be blamed on Wal-Mart.

Maybe you should try harder?

I've been to Black Friday events with about 1000 people outside, and there was no pushing or shoving, no violence, and it was because management took responsibility for the situation, hired some security, and kept things from getting ugly. If Wal-Mart didn't have proper policy in place to avoid this situation knowing full well what would likely happen, and didn't take proper precautions ahead of time, then they ARE responsible.
 
*edit* Oh I see! Because it doesn't have unions. How could I possibly not understood. Screw unions. Sorry to be so blunt but I have never, ever, had a good experience with them. It wouldn't have helped here at any rate. It would have just been a dead union work.

And of course it is the grocery union, one of the most corrupt that I've actually had experience with. They hate Wal-Mart so hard, they'll exploit any tragedy to hit them.
Oh, I see! You have political ideology that short-circuits your ability to reason and empathize, or resist to urge to suck up to corporations no matter what they do wrong.
 
@tyr_13: Did you read any of the articles or watch any of the videos? Other stores had the shoppers in an orderly line managed by store employees. If necc. they had concrete barriers set up in place. At Walmart there was none of that.

Also, having prices slashed radically below market prices for just the first 5 hours of Black Friday does not help the situation. Any organization, if it wants to, can help bring the worst out in people.

There are videos on the net that show in previous years people getting knocked down and trampled in Wal-Mart stores on Black Friday. They had a problem and the retail store chain made no attempt to fix it -- just continued with business as usual. Now a man is dead.

ETA: I see JoeEllison posted first -- good points Joe.
 
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Oh, I see! You have political ideology that short-circuits your ability to reason and empathize, or resist to urge to suck up to corporations no matter what they do wrong.

Yes, that is the logical conclusion, I must be an ideologue. I empathize with the employees and management of that store, not the stampeding shoppers, and certainly not unions seeking to use this as ammo to try to get into Wal-Mart stores.

I've been to these events too with no violence, and no security. I've worked these events with no violence and no security. Why would this store know this was likely? What makes you so sure they knew full well?

Should I now accuse you of having a political ideology that short-circuits your ability to reason or bash corporations no mater how little they had to do with something?
 
Why not blame the police then? They knew about these situations as fully as Wal-Mart, and they didn't stop it.

Also, pointing out that other Wal-Marts had 'proper precautions' would seem to indicate that it was a problem with this specific store and not the corporation as a whole. People were shot at other stores, is that Toys-R-Us's fault? Or are they not big enough to pick on?
 
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There are videos on the net that show in previous years people getting knocked down and trampled in Wal-Mart stores on Black Friday. They had a problem and the retail store chain made no attempt to fix it -- just continued with business as usual. Now a man is dead.

And that's all you need to show that Wal-Mart is responsible: solid evidence that they knew about the problem, combined with an unwillingness to correct the problem. If this sort of mob behavior happens once, in one store, it is an unavoidable accident. If the company sets up the same situation the next year, and doesn't do anything to make sure it doesn't happen again, then they are liable.
 
Yes, that is the logical conclusion, I must be an ideologue. I empathize with the employees and management of that store, not the stampeding shoppers, and certainly not unions seeking to use this as ammo to try to get into Wal-Mart stores.

I've been to these events too with no violence, and no security. I've worked these events with no violence and no security. Why would this store know this was likely? What makes you so sure they knew full well?

Should I now accuse you of having a political ideology that short-circuits your ability to reason or bash corporations no mater how little they had to do with something?
You just don't understand.
These poor people are too stupid to keep themselves under control. It is up to big brother to keep them in line, by force if necessary, because the average joe who shops at Wal mart NEEDS the benevolent people in society to keep them in line.
We must learn to listen to those who know our limitations, and who are kindly enough to know that it is up to Corporate America to keep us in line, and prevent use from hurting ourselves and others.




Besides--they have the deepest pockets...
 
I'm amazed there was only one death. Black Friday turns people into monsters.

I hate it was a worker instead of one of the mindless trashbags who voluntarily stampede every day after Thanksgiving to get a copy of Tropic Thunder for $10. I can't really blame Wal-Mart, every major retailer in the country encourages this moronic behavoir, and they do so because goofballs basically demand it.
 
I really fail to see how this can be blamed on Wal-Mart. I hope they use the security camera recordings to charge the 'animals' actually responsible.

Yes getting people to crowd and run is all good, these things are totaly random and crowds can never be predicted right?

Like the yearly deaths at Mecca these are just a fact of life, employees. If there are not enough trample deaths it is not a successful sale.
 
The "99 Cent Store" crowd festered thru Penney's at the Mall this morning, trashing it so it looked familiar to them. Merchandise just dropped on the floor any old place.
 
Yes getting people to crowd and run is all good, these things are totaly random and crowds can never be predicted right?

Like the yearly deaths at Mecca these are just a fact of life, employees. If there are not enough trample deaths it is not a successful sale.

Getting people to crowd and run? You make it sound like they were fenced in, perhaps with concrete barriers, and hit with cattle prods. Those people chose to behave badly. Other crowds didn't. Can you predict which ones? The one at Sears? K-Mart? Lowes?

Hopefully this event leads to tighter crowd control for all Wal-Mart stores, which will be added right to the sales price of the products. Yet no one will tell Wal-Mart, "good job," even if it starts a program better than any of it's competitors.

The sad thing is that if this had happened at Target, people wouldn't be as likely to call for a law suit. Guess that's because everyone knows Wal-Mart is evil and other corporations are nice.
 
Then again, everyone knows if you want REAL Black Friday violence then screw Wal-Mart. Toys-R-US is where the action is:

Shots fired at Toys R Us in Palm Desert; 2 dead

Thankfully all my Black Friday shopping was done on Amazon before I ever got out of bed, and the out-of-door shopping was all at gun shops (wooohooo, 2nd Amendment Tax-Free Weekend) so I never went within a mile of a mall. I couldn't handle that insanity even before I quit smoking weed.
 
Then again, everyone knows if you want REAL Black Friday violence then screw Wal-Mart. Toys-R-US is where the action is:

Shots fired at Toys R Us in Palm Desert; 2 dead

Thankfully all my Black Friday shopping was done on Amazon before I ever got out of bed, and the out-of-door shopping was all at gun shops (wooohooo, 2nd Amendment Tax-Free Weekend) so I never went within a mile of a mall. I couldn't handle that insanity even before I quit smoking weed.

Now I am seeing something like one of those wedding dress sale crowds at a gun store.
 
Getting people to crowd and run? You make it sound like they were fenced in, perhaps with concrete barriers, and hit with cattle prods. Those people chose to behave badly. Other crowds didn't. Can you predict which ones? The one at Sears? K-Mart? Lowes?

They want frantic crowds and intentionaly feed the idea that they need to buy it now and get in there now. They want people running and pushing, that is a goal, and when you get that sort of crowd you get deaths.

If it was random like you seem to think then you would get trampleing deaths at most large concerts and sporting events.
Hopefully this event leads to tighter crowd control for all Wal-Mart stores, which will be added right to the sales price of the products. Yet no one will tell Wal-Mart, "good job," even if it starts a program better than any of it's competitors.

And the only way to get any company to respond to such things is hit them in the pocket book.
 
If it was random like you seem to think then you would get trampleing deaths at most large concerts and sporting events.


It happens at both of them. You simply can't compare the instances of it because there are never going to be as many massive concerts and sporting events in one day as there are stores nationwide holding these idiotic sales today.

Not to mention soccer moms and children aren't as well-practiced at mob violence as sports fans and concert-goers. :p
 

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