Wake Up Call To All Truthers

[Justin39640]

Thanks. Those who appear on this site and post in favor of the 'official' lie, at this late date, can be considered to be complicit. Even a cursory examination of that day will show that an inordinate amount of Jews were involved, and that Israel stood to gain the most from the aftermath.
We've been saddled with unending wars and the Patriot act, so in other words, we're screwed. Those that think you're wrong, are either incredibly stupid, or part of the coverup.

Israel was very happy with the invasion of Afghanistan. After that, all their problems went away!

 

[Hokulele]

For instance, if the confiscated Pentagon videos were released and showed a missile hit the Pentagon, badda bing.

Ah, so you are already moving away from anything, to a specific, concrete piece of evidence.

Well, I guess that shoots down your OP and represents some progress...

 

[1337m4n]

Thanks. Those who appear on this site and post in favor of the 'official' lie, at this late date, can be considered to be complicit. Even a cursory examination of that day will show that an inordinate amount of Jews were involved, and that Israel stood to gain the most from the aftermath.
We've been saddled with unending wars and the Patriot act, so in other words, we're screwed. Those that think you're wrong, are either incredibly stupid, or part of the coverup.

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

 

[Robrob]

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

Same reason so many of them also post on the "Holocaust is a Lie" topic.

 

[dafydd]

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

Pig ignorance?

 

[Clayton Moore]

Thanks. Those who appear on this site and post in favor of the 'official' lie, at this late date, can be considered to be complicit. Even a cursory examination of that day will show that an inordinate amount of Jews were involved, and that Israel stood to gain the most from the aftermath.
We've been saddled with unending wars and the Patriot act, so in other words, we're screwed. Those that think you're wrong, are either incredibly stupid, or part of the coverup.

Excellent first post. Israel has been using the USA to support its dirty work for decades. Attacking the USS Liberty, spying on the US, always pushing the envelope.

The proof of the pudding is that those who control the USA MSM have been ignoring the facts of 9/11 for over a decade.

 

[carlitos]

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

 

[The Platypus]

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

Stupidity?

 

[Dog Town]

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

Can't afford a bank account, or get a credit card? /spitball

 

[LSSBB]

Excellent first post. Israel has been using the USA to support its dirty work for decades. Attacking the USS Liberty, spying on the US, always pushing the envelope.

The proof of the pudding is that the those who control the USA MSM have been ignoring the facts of 9/11 for over a decade.

The proof of the pudding is that the media is ignoring facts that nobody has demonstrated???

 

[Clayton Moore]

Why are truthers so hung up on the Jews?

Nobody is hung up on Jewish people. It just so happens that bad Jewish people are guilty of doing bad things. When the bad Jewish people get caught they dive under the skirts of Judaism. They and their sycophants scream antisemitism.

Somebody had to do 9/11. Somebody had authorize the FBI to run around the Pentagon area to collect all the security videos.
Somebody had authorize the NORAD war gameS running on 9/11. Somebody had to authorize FEMA to show up in NYC on the eve of 9/11.

It wasn't 19 barely solvent Muslims.

 

[Robrob]

Excellent first post. Israel has been using the USA to support its dirty work for decades. Attacking the USS Liberty, spying on the US, always pushing the envelope.

The proof of the pudding is that those who control the USA MSM have been ignoring the facts of 9/11 for over a decade.

1) How was the attack on the USS Liberty "using the USA to support its dirty work?"

2) Israel admitted guilt, issued a formal apology and paid restitution to the families. How is that "using the USA to support its dirty work?"

3) You do realize every nation spies on every other nation, right?

Nobody is hung up on Jewish people. It just so happens that bad Jewish people are guilty of doing bad things. When the bad Jewish people get caught they dive under the skirts of Judaism. They and their sycophants scream antisemitism.

No, the blatant antisemitism is what makes people scream "antisemitism."

Somebody had authorize the FBI to run around the Pentagon area to collect all the security videos.

The FBI investigates terrorism. It's one of their primary jobs. To investigate something requires the collection of evidence. What part of this confuses you?

Somebody had authorize the NORAD war gameS running on 9/11.

The computer based command level simulations that were scheduled annually? The command level exercises that didn't use actual people, planes or assets? Didn't you have those when you were a Navy Walrus?

Somebody had to authorize FEMA to show up in NYC on the eve of 9/11.

Absolute horse ****.

It wasn't 19 barely solvent Muslims.

Correct, it was 19 Muslims financed by al Qaeda - supported by wealthy Saudi donors and OBL's personal $50,000,000 fortune. What part of this confuses you?

 

[Oystein]

...
Even a cursory examination of that day will show that an inordinate amount of Jews were involved ...

This is formally a claim of an inequality: You are saying

A > B​

Where

A = amount of Jews that were involved
B = "ordinate" amount of Jews​

I'd think that an "ordinate" amount of Jews would be the number of Jews that was involved if co-conspirators were selected from some source population by random chance, i.e. without regard for religious background or ethnicity. If you have a different definition for "(in)ordinate" in mind, please provide it!

Question to you, lugnutz: How do you know that A > B? In other words, have you evaluated both A and B? Can you answer specifically, by using numbers...

... how many Jews were involved in the crimes of 9/11? A lower bound would be the least you'd need to supply.
... how many Jews could be expected ordinarily to participate in such a crime if perpetrators came from the various candidate ethnic and religious backgrounds by random chance (substitute your own metric for "inordinary", if yours differs from my suggestion)? An upper bound would be the least you'd need to supply.​

I understand that "even a cursory examination of that day will show" these numbers.

 

[Mudcat]

Somebody had to do 9/11.

Someone did, 19 Muslims financed and backed by al Qaeda.

Somebody had authorize the FBI to run around the Pentagon area to collect all the security videos.

Why on earth would the FBI need any kind of authorization to collect evidence for crimes that are their responsibility to investigate in the first place beyond a sopena or search warrant?

Somebody had authorize the NORAD war gameS running on 9/11.

That war games had taken place on that day would be suspicious, because... Come on CM, throw me a bone here.

Somebody had to authorize FEMA to show up in NYC on the eve of 9/11.

FEMA absolutely doesn't need any kind of authorization to show up anywhere where there's a disaster, it's an emergency relief organization. While we're on the topic, what's suspicious about FEMA showing up to provide emergency relief where it's plainly needed?

 

[Oystein]

...
It wasn't 19 barely solvent Muslims.

In context, this is claiming an inequality. You are basically saying

A > B​

where

A = Amount of liquid money needed to finance the 9/11 operations
B = Amount of liquid money available to the 19 muslims (and their backoffice)​

How do you know this is true? Have you evaluated both A and B? In other wprds, can you express in numbers the answers to these two question:

• How much liquid money did the 19 muslims need to finance their 9/11 operation? A lower bound is the least you'd need to supply.
• How much liquid money did the 19 muslims have at their disposal? An upper bound is the least you'd need to supply.

 

[Clayton Moore]

This is formally a claim of an inequality: You are saying

A > B​

Where

A = amount of Jews that were involved
B = "ordinate" amount of Jews​

I'd think that an "ordinate" amount of Jews would be the number of Jews that was involved if co-conspirators were selected from some source population by random chance, i.e. without regard for religious background or ethnicity. If you have a different definition for "(in)ordinate" in mind, please provide it!

Question to you, lugnutz: How do you know that A > B? In other words, have you evaluated both A and B? Can you answer specifically, by using numbers...

... how many Jews were involved in the crimes of 9/11? A lower bound would be the least you'd need to supply.
... how many Jews could be expected ordinarily to participate in such a crime if perpetrators came from the various candidate ethnic and religious backgrounds by random chance (substitute your own metric for "inordinary", if yours differs from my suggestion)? An upper bound would be the least you'd need to supply.​

I understand that "even a cursory examination of that day will show" these numbers.

Seeing as how the neocons called for a 9/11 incident and it happened. And as the democracy building conflicts called for by neocons began as a result of the "instilled fear of terrorism" caused by 9/11. And neocons were predominantly Zionists. Yeppers.

 

[Oystein]

Seeing as how the neocons called for a 9/11 incident and it happened. And as the democracy building conflicts called for by neocons began as a result of the "instilled fear of terrorism" caused by 9/11. And neocons were predominantly Zionists. Yeppers.

But ...
... how many Jews were involved in the crimes of 9/11?
... how many Jews could be expected ordinarily to participate in such a crime?
And
... how do you know that the former number is larger than the latter number, if you haven't evaluated^*) these amounts?

Can you answer these questions, or can't you, Clayton Moore?

Oh and how about the questions I asked directly of YOU?

• How much liquid money did the 19 muslims need to finance their 9/11 operation?
• How much liquid money did the 19 muslims have at their disposal?

And how do you know that the former number is larger than the latter number, if you haven't evaluated^*) these amounts?



*) "Evaluate" means "to assign a numerical value to" in this context.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Why on earth would the FBI need any kind of authorization to collect evidence for crimes that are their responsibility to investigate in the first place beyond a sopena or search warrant?

Maybe because they had to be assigned the task before the event in order scoop up the security videos in a timely manner.

That war games had taken place on that day would be suspicious, because... Come on CM, throw me a bone here.

A couple of the war games in progress on 9/11 had been scheduled for October 2001.
The war games took away much of our protection from the air.

http://911proof.com/9.html

WAR GAMES ON SEPTEMBER 11TH
On the very morning of 9/11/01, five war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes. Then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers, admitted to 4 of the war games in congressional testimony -- see transcript here or video here (6 minutes and 12 seconds into the video).
Norad had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run. See also official military website showing 2000 military drill, using miniatures, involving a plane crashing into the Pentagon.

As discussed previously, a former air force colonel and director of the Star Wars program stated "If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason"

FEMA absolutely doesn't need any kind of authorization to show up anywhere where there's a disaster, it's an emergency relief organization. While we're on the topic, what's suspicious about FEMA showing up to provide emergency relief where it's plainly needed?

The day before 9/11?

 

[TSR]

Seeing as how the neocons called for a 9/11 incident and it happened.

No, they didn't "call for" one. *One* group, years before 9/11, made a observation that something along the lines of Pearl Harbour would likely have similar results in terms of public sentiment in the US.

This is hardly an earth-shattering thing to mention.

And as the democracy building conflicts called for by neocons began as a result of the "instilled fear of terrorism" caused by 9/11.

Because no one feared terrorism before then?

And which specific conflicts can you document these neocons calling for?

And neocons were predominantly Zionists.

Tell you what -- for each neocon you can document as being Zionist, I will offer three who have said nothing about a Jewish homeland.

Yeppers.

Nopers.

 

[dafydd]

The proof of the pudding

Do you inject the pudding into your arm?