Vote Mugabe or die

You're not going to win the off-topic comment of the year award anyway - so why not addressing the topic once in a while if you (a.) fail to find any criticism and (b) won't agree with me - no matter what. :p

How about addressing what you think is a reasonable and tractable solution to the Mugabe problem? Can you give a good reason the US and Britain should be solely involved without bringing Israel into your response?

~ggep~
 
How about addressing what you think is a reasonable and tractable solution to the Mugabe problem? Can you give a good reason the US and Britain should be solely involved without bringing Israel into your response?

~ggep~


I'm all for removing this guy in the name of democracy, the already destroyed economy, the oppression, inflation, killings and so on.

If situations are urgent regarding those issues, Darfur and Zimbabwe are pretty good candidates for the 2003 SOTU topics.

But I also acknowledge that while liberal Whites do indeed care, their politicians are rather appeasing with bloomy words like "It's soo bad - and we gotta do something" while rapidly shifting to other topics instead.
 
Oh - and Israel doesn't care about those topics. So let them out of the question regarding help.
 
Oh - and Israel doesn't care about those topics. So let them out of the question regarding help.

My wording wasn't clear enough. My meaning was for you not to bring in a mention of Israel as to why the US should intervene. Earlier in the thread, you implied that the US wouldn't do so because Zimbabwe doesn't have oil or Jewish lobbyists. I just didn't word my sentence well. Sorry about that.

~ggep~
 
I'm all for removing this guy in the name of democracy, the already destroyed economy, the oppression, inflation, killings and so on.

You're still evading! HOW would you do this?

If situations are urgent regarding those issues, Darfur and Zimbabwe are pretty good candidates for the 2003 SOTU topics.

Eh?

But I also acknowledge that while liberal Whites do indeed care, their politicians are rather appeasing with bloomy words like "It's soo bad - and we gotta do something" while rapidly shifting to other topics instead.

Who are these "liberal Whites" you're talking about? Do you mean US and British citizens? Last time I checked, liberals in the US had a black as their front-man.

If your point is that political leaders such as Bush are not addressing the Zimbabwe situation with enough action, then the point may be valid. The point that is not valid is that it is only up to the US and Britain to solve the problem. It is up to the entire international community. The United Nations has ways, both diplomatic and legal, to deal with such situations. They probably should exercise those procedures, with the consent of the international community. Do you think that is a reasonable statement?

~ggep~
 
Eh?
~ggep~

I think he's referring to the State of the Union address, here, The qualities of courage and compassion that we strive for in America also determine our conduct abroad. The American flag stands for more than our power and our interests. Our founders dedicated this country to the cause of human dignity, the rights of every person, and the possibilities of every life. This conviction leads us into the world to help the afflicted, and defend the peace, and confound the designs of evil men.

In Afghanistan, we helped liberate an oppressed people. And we will continue helping them secure their country, rebuild their society, and educate all their children -- boys and girls. In the Middle East, we will continue to seek peace between a secure Israel and a democratic Palestine. Across the Earth, America is feeding the hungry -- more than 60 percent of international food aid comes as a gift from the people of the United States. As our nation moves troops and builds alliances to make our world safer, we must also remember our calling as a blessed country is to make this world better.

Today, on the continent of Africa, nearly 30 million people have the AIDS virus -- including 3 million children under the age 15. There are whole countries in Africa where more than one-third of the adult population carries the infection. More than 4 million require immediate drug treatment. Yet across that continent, only 50,000 AIDS victims -- only 50,000 -- are receiving the medicine they need.

Attempting to suggest President Bush is a hypocrite, White American hypocrisy, white shame, and no oil!! Among other things still to be determined.
 
Shame to be human. Nobody will help the people in Zimbabwe and Darfur. :(
I really wonder is it because there is no oil. :mad:
I just can"t understand why the world lets Mugabe continue? Maybe because people doesn"t care? :(
 
I wonder if Zimbabwe will be another Rwanda? Shame on Condi Rice if that happens. And SHAME ON BILL CLINTON FOR DOING NOTHING TO STOP RWANDA. The hole thing makes me sad and angry. Where is the pope talking about helping people? Didn"t Jesus say you should help people? Sanctions will not work. There is no other way but remove Robert Mugabe from power and stop him.
 
I mean just what? Mugabes militia cut peoples hand of and legs? Legs and hand of? Wow and that isn"t enough proof to remove Robert Mugabe from power? sad really really sad. And talk about Zimbabwe economicly. Wow there inflation rate is 100000%. And the UN doesn nothing? UN is the usless nations. :mad:

:(
 
Noticed how Oliver didn't answer this one?

I thought Ron Paul was all about the US non intervening in other nations affairs.

Yes, I'm really at a loss why Iraq was bad but Zimbabwe, and Darfur are OK to invade. Maybe he's a caucasian.
 
I really wonder is it because there is no oil. :mad:
There actually is oil in the Sudan, which the Chinese are developing. This is why China blocks tougher sanctions on the Sudan.

The Chinese must be Caucasian.
 
Noticed how Oliver didn't answer this one?
You know the drill with Oliver by now Pardalis!

Whatever the US is doing is wrong. Whatever it has done was wrong, Whatever it does in the future will be wrong.
 
So it is the United States' fault that Mugabe is a tyrant but the Jews are the one's who have lobbied the US to make Mugabe a tyrant?
 
Did Oliver actually say deposing Mugabe is more urgent than deposing Saddam? By what criteria?
 
Noticed how Oliver didn't answer this one?

I thought Ron Paul was all about the US non intervening in other nations affairs.


Sorry, I missed the question. So yes, there is nothing wrong with Police and Justice - if it's not a self-serving, corrupt Justice/World-police. I actually disagree with Ron Paul on this point of View - while he isn't the Topic of this thread nor related to it.
 
Did Oliver actually say deposing Mugabe is more urgent than deposing Saddam? By what criteria?


Did you follow international News in recent times?

http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/inde...babwe&catid=31:top zimbabwe stories&Itemid=66
[URL="http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13732:genocide-gets-worse-in-zimbabwe&catid=31:top%20zimbabwe%20stories&Itemid=66"]Genocide gets worse in Zimbabwe

[/URL]Ashdown warns of Zimbabwe genocide
[SIZE=-1]The Press Association - Jun 23, 2008[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Military intervention in Zimbabwe could be necessary to stop violence sliding into "genocide", Paddy Ashdown has warned. Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon ...

[/SIZE]Fury over Robert Mugabe 'genocide'

Zimbabwe could face genocide

 

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