Moderated Views on George Galloway.

[Pardalis]

Suicide bombing didn't exist in Afghanistan before the invasion.

The "suicide bombers" in Afghanistan are frequently motivated by very personal experiences of the occupiers' violence, such as the death and abuse of family members.

They are, indeed, consciously resisting an unjust occupation and with the most effective means available to them.

Those brave Taliban fighting the evil occupation...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/06/09/afghanistan.wedding.bomb/index.html?hpt=T1

Now they're attacking weddings!

How is Jihad Jane going to justify this one?

 

[Undesired Walrus]

How is Jihad Jane going to justify this one?

Blowback etc.

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

Galloway is absolute scum...

He's a traitor to the people of the United Kingdom,and is supportive of fascist and theocratic governments wherever he finds them.I really hope this man is arrested and charged with high treason....

I notice he has a large following among rabid Jew bashers,as well as 9/11 Truthers. I don't know if Galloway is a Truther, but it's clear he doesn't blame Islamic terroists for 7/7 and 9/11

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

Not a penny. And he said so under oath. They would have found out if he had. It was all fabricated. You wont be able to prove it if the US govenment and intelligence cant my friend.

Christopher Hitchens would disagree

 

[Zeuzzz]

I know. But they do a pretty damn crap job of that dont they?! For each civilian Israel accidentally kills it creates five more hate driven people to get revenge. Viscous cycle. Solution: Stop the killing.

They have a large army and miliary power. Hamas are like toy soldiers firing out of date and inaccurate weapons.

This thread is nearly a year or so old now. And I have yet to find any coherent reason why such a peace loving and equality based politician is all bad as the news and papers imply.

The tabloids have been awful to him in the past for questioning why the WAR? In various contexts. He sued on three occasions, and won each one in court. Doubly hilarious.

A video compiled by him and shared with the anonymous group a few days ago

Typical battle has going with the biased print tabloids [url=Best of George Galloway VS the Mainstream[/url]

To me, Galloway is a fresh breath or air in a sewage system of politicians so inchage of their economy an big business that forget about that the people will think if this keep happening. They are in a cesspit of con courageous politicos,

 

[Zeuzzz]

Christopher Hitchens would disagree

The only time I clearly watch him definitely loose a debate was with George. I don't think hypocritchens experted the well educated 'much than just anti war' politician he got into.

Not one of Chritchens best speeces, George directly point pouit the print bias and horotry he has chosen to mess, and wind every argument. hands down. Have you watched this one?

 

[Virus]

This thread is nearly a year or so old now. And I have yet to find any coherent reason why such a peace loving and equality based politician is all bad as the news and papers imply.

Because this:

 

[Craig B]

Galloway is absolute scum...

He's a traitor to the people of the United Kingdom,and is supportive of fascist and theocratic governments wherever he finds them.I really hope this man is arrested and charged with high treason....

I notice he has a large following among rabid Jew bashers,as well as 9/11 Truthers. I don't know if Galloway is a Truther, but it's clear he doesn't blame Islamic terroists for 7/7 and 9/11

I really don't like Galloway. But I'm interested in your last point. Who does Galloway say did in fact perpetrate these outrages, if not Islamist terrorists?

 

[The Don]

I really don't like Galloway. But I'm interested in your last point. Who does Galloway say did in fact perpetrate these outrages, if not Islamist terrorists?

IIRC it's not that they didn't perpetrate the outrages but rather that they weren't to blame


edited to add....

I recalled incorrectly, he did place the blame for 7/7 at least at the door of Islamic extremists

I condemn the act that was committed this morning. I have no need to speculate about its authorship. It is absolutely clear that Islamist extremists, inspired by the al-Qaeda world outlook, are responsible. I condemn it utterly as a despicable act, committed against working people on their way to work, without warning, on tubes and buses. Let there be no equivocation: the primary responsibility for this morning’s bloodshed lies with the perpetrators of those acts… The hon. Member for North Durham (Mr. Jones), in an otherwise fine speech, described today’s events as “unpredictable”. They were not remotely unpredictable. Our own security services predicted them and warned the Government that if we [invaded Iraq] we would be at greater risk from terrorist attacks such as the one that we have suffered this morning… Despicable, yes; but not unpredictable. It was entirely predictable and, I predict, it will not be the last.

 

[Zeuzzz]

Because this:

You racist?

He gets on pretty well with the worldwide Muslim community due to his compassionate nature and amount of time he's spent in the arabic world studying. He understands them better than hardly any other UK politician.

I notice that the video is from one of the two notorious Galloway name smearers on youtube. Both upload out of context lies about Galloway, or somehow give a wrong impression then disable comments or ratings straight away. Extremely poor form, even to link to it let alone watch it and believe it shows anything significant.

Stick to the videos with a green bar and comments and you can't go far wrong in terms of doctored smear videos. His argument with the Senate is hilarious. So is his rant about Israel on sky. So is his shouting at a NAZI on his radio show.

 

[Craig B]

IIRC it's not that they didn't perpetrate the outrages but rather that they weren't to blame
edited to add....
I recalled incorrectly, he did place the blame for 7/7 at least at the door of Islamic extremists

Yes I thought I remembered his having done so. I still don't like him, but he's far too clever to deny reality when it stares us in the face. He "spins" it. But he's not a complete fool.

ETA. He blames "Islamist" extremists. That's the preferred, and I think correct, terminology.

 

[DreadNiK]

my view on George Galloway? If someone set him on fire I'd laugh and watch...

 

[Zeuzzz]

Nice.

Same as with muslims? At least some people give them a western voice that's easy to publicly hear. He's basically been a political translator for decades. If people don't like the message he gives them, at least don't blame the messenger.

 

[DreadNiK]

Nice.

Same as with muslims? At least some people give them a western voice that's easy to publicly hear. He's basically been a political translator for decades. If people don't like the message he gives them, at least don't blame the messenger.

I seriously hope for the sake of Muslims everywhere (or rather, the sake of everyone else) that his 'political translations' are horrifically inaccurate...

I struggle to understand how people like him are not immediately seen by everyone as the egotistical, cynical and intellectually dishonest scumbags that they are - he's basically the islamic extremist version of David Icke - incredibly articulate but devoid of reasoning

 

[Zeuzzz]

Unproved hyperbole.

Next.

 

[Craig B]

my view on George Galloway? If someone set him on fire I'd laugh and watch...

I see. On what grounds then can you condemn these heartless monsters who can slaughter people, watch and laugh? Try as much as possible to be unlike them. That's my advice.

 

[DreadNiK]

I see. On what grounds then can you condemn these heartless monsters who can slaughter people, watch and laugh? Try as much as possible to be unlike them. That's my advice.

Note - I may not have been entirely serious, just hyperbolising to illustrate that I really f**king hate Galloway...

Also note I said 'if someone were to...' rather than that I would. I would actually like to think I'd try and save him, if he were set on fire, as no human deserves to be burnt alive (well....at least George Galloway, for all his failings, probably doesn't) but I wouldn't be happy about it

 

[Zeuzzz]

You haven't even thrown him in a freezing lake yet to test if he's a wizard or not yet.

Why hate him, specifically?

 

[HoverBoarder]

I have yet to find any coherent reason why such a peace loving and equality based politician is all bad as the news and papers imply.

The problem is that he has never been 'peace loving.'

In fact, he frequently encourages violence against sides that he doesn't support.

There are plenty of people who support the use of violence for achievement of their political views.


However, one of the reasons that Galloway is so widely despised by a large number of people is because of his frequent dishonesty, especially when he is promoting violence.

Many people see those kinds of actions from Galloway as destructive, disingenuous, and unhelpful for solving or calming International issues.

 

[Zeuzzz]

He does not support violence. Is your issue that he understands peoples right to defend their sovereignty if their country is invaded and they do not like the occupiers?

There's a titanic difference between people who feel their existence and culture is under threat defending themselves and on the other hand advocating full out needless violence.