Moderated Views on George Galloway.

Yep. So? Please stay on topic.

And thats partially why Galloway does not support Hamas :D

Zeuzzz said:
"what else can you do? You have to deal with the authorities that are ellected and that govern the place. That happens to be Hamas. I wouldn't have voted for them, but the palestinian people did."

George Galloway, interviewed on canadas The Hour
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I'll even add bold this time to try to get people to make the distinction I've kept trying to (obviously unsucessfully)

He finds many of their ideas abhorent. But he sticks up for the palestinian people who happen to have elected a rather precarious (to say the least) govenment, Hamas. No matter who the govenment, they have a right to the land that Israel illegally occupies. So no matter who is in charge has a right to the land by international law, whether its the peoples front of judea or the jedean peoples front.

He does repute the palestinians image as a terrorist state, by comparing casualities and deaths, and incentives, and many other things, and he does support them in conflicts for humanitarian reasons (as they always have the most casualties) but he hates Hamas.
 
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parky76 said:
MEMRI is pure Mossad propaganda.
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Is this a joke? It was a video of Galloway speaking - how does that equate to Mossad propaganda? Do you believe Mossad cut that video to make the things Galloway was saying seem anti-Israeli?

Wut?
 
Zeuzzz said:
PS: He's not on their side anyway, he just thinks that afghanis have a right to defend their country aggainst aggressors. And wants the troops back as soon as possible to save lives.
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So why did he support the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
 
parky76 said:
MEMRI is pure Mossad propaganda.
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Those clever Mossad agents, tricking Palestinians to air kiddie TV shows which train 6 year olds to be jihadists and suicide bombers! Is there anything they can't do? :rolleyes:
 
Zeuzzz said:
And thats partially why Galloway does not support Hamas
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So who is this guy?



And then, true to form, Galloway lies through his teeth, denying he said what he is clearly saying in the first video:



There it is, objective proof that Galloway is a liar.

And subjective proof that he is a scumbag.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Yep. So?.
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So ? You're OK with Hamas wanting to kill Jews then ?

Why didn't he just donate his goods and cash to the UN and let them distribute it ? It's not like Hamas would favour who got the aid now would they ?

Maybe if Galloway had read the news before his departure for Gaza in Feb 2009 he might have read the following.


BBC said:
The Hamas Social Affairs Minister in Gaza, Ahmed al-Kurd, denied that members of the Islamist movement had removed aid from a UN building.

However, he said his ministry was in dispute with the UN relief agency about how aid should be distributed.

He accused the UN of giving aid to local groups with ties to Hamas opponents.
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Or..from the same article.

BBC said:
However, the UN, along with most of the Western world, does not deal directly with Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip.
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Source

Nope, Galloway just charged ahead knowing he rather fund a terrorist organisation because it would get him more spotlight time than just handing the goods and cash over to the UN, then spun it as a freedom of speech issue when he was banned from Canada for doing just that
 
IDB87 said:
Is this a joke? It was a video of Galloway speaking - how does that equate to Mossad propaganda? Do you believe Mossad cut that video to make the things Galloway was saying seem anti-Israeli?

Wut?
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It was Anti-Israeli, very clearly. They would not need to cut anything to make it look like this. This was at a time when the Gaza appeal emergency helpline had been open for a while and George had come to give aid to the suffering palestinians. Giving his unrivalled oratory skills, he took the oppertunity to show that there is worldwide support for palestinians, that there is still hope they will survive as a nation and will not be wiped off the map.
 
WildCat said:
So who is this guy?



And then, true to form, Galloway lies through his teeth, denying he said what he is clearly saying in the first video:



There it is, objective proof that Galloway is a liar.

And subjective proof that he is a scumbag.
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Say no to Hamas
Say yes to Hummus
 
Stout said:
So ? You're OK with Hamas wanting to kill Jews then ?
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No of course not (if thats true) and george, as you well know, would despise this view, and would argue to the ground anyone who espoused it.

Why didn't he just donate his goods and cash to the UN and let them distribute it ?
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The palestinians dont trust the UN, and they have good reason to. They side with Isreal far too often.
 
Zeuzzz said:
No of course not (if thats true) and george, as you well know, would despise this view, and would argue to the ground anyone who espoused it.
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Not at all true. In fact, Georgie boy loves Hamas so much he chants "we are all hamas" at a pro-Hamas rally. See the video above.

The palestinians dont trust the UN, and they have good reason to. They side with Isreal far too often.
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The Palestinains might find they will get much more support if they stop acting like spoiled children and start acting like a responsible nation.

Hint: responsible people don't elect internationally recognized terrorist groups into political power, and lob rockets at civilians.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
So why did he support the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
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Hey, this is the guy who said the day the Soviet Union collapssed was the saddest day in his life. What else can you expect but that George would support just about any Soviet action?
 
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Zeuzzz said:
It was Anti-Israeli, very clearly. They would not need to cut anything to make it look like this. This was at a time when the Gaza appeal emergency helpline had been open for a while and George had come to give aid to the suffering palestinians. Giving his unrivalled oratory skills, he took the oppertunity to show that there is worldwide support for palestinians, that there is still hope they will survive as a nation and will not be wiped off the map.
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Yet, not one word of criticism against Hamas for their human rights abuses of their own people...Galloway's beloved Palestinian People.

To wit...

Palestinian Center For Human Rights
Human Rights Violations In The Gaza Strip, 2009

For the past five weeks, the Palestinian Center For Human Rights has collected testimonies from victims and eyewitnesses regarding dozens of human rights violations perpetrated across the Gaza Strip by armed members of the Palestinian Security Services and unidentified gunmen. According to PCHR documentation, at least 32 Palestinians have been killed by members of the PSS during this reporting period. In addition, dozens of other people sustained injuries after being shot or severely beaten by unidentified gunmen who in some cases claimed to be members of the PSS.

The human rights violations perpetrated during this reporting period have included killings of fugitives, prisoners and detainees, injuries caused by severe physical violence, torture and misuse of weapons, the imposition of house arrest and other restrictions that have been imposed on civil society.
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Zeuzzz said:
No of course not (if thats true) and george, as you well know, would despise this view, and would argue to the ground anyone who espoused it.

The palestinians dont trust the UN, and they have good reason to. They side with Isreal far too often.
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Post 468?
 
Derail about the UN and genocide sent to AAH. Nothing wrong with the topic, but those bickering posts are no way to start it. If you want to discuss those topics, start a thread or find one of the many that have already discussed it.

Please stop the bickering and stay on topic here too, okay?
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 
Zeuzzz said:
You couldn't make a much more blatent attempt to link political views against Zionism with and entire religion if you tried! What a disgrace. You just added the 'jew' bit to make it sound like its an anti-semitic view.
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I would double check any translations of the Hamas charter. Especially if it's published by right wing Zionists. They have a habit of carefully mistranslating on purpose to bring anti-semitism into it. The classic lie is Ahmadinejad's speech calling to 'remove the Zionist Regime', which was twisted into "Wipe Israel off the Map"

And I have no idea what that would have to do with galloway, who no-one has ONCE proved in this thread is in the SLIGHTEST bit anti-semitic.
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There was a huge thread earlier this year trying to prove Alex Jones was anti-semitic. Even after probably nearly 30 pages no one could.

No one is going to prove George Galloway is anti-semitic. Because he isn't. But then anyone who criticizes Israel and the right wing Zionist Movement is always labeled as anti-Semitic by right wing Zionists.

Stay on topic. Further derails in any threads will result in sterner mod actions.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady
 
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Tin Foil Timothy said:
I would double check any translations of the Hamas charter. Especially if it's published by right wing Zionists. They have a habit of carefully mistranslating on purpose to bring anti-semitism into it. The classic lie is Ahmadinejad's speech calling to 'remove the Zionist Regime', which was twisted into "Wipe Israel off the Map"
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Your Iranian hero came out as a holocaust denier again recently though eh?

There was a huge thread earlier this year trying to prove Alex Jones was anti-semitic. Even after probably nearly 30 pages no one could.
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Thats a lie

No one is going to prove George Galloway is anti-semitic. Because he isn't. But then anyone who criticizes Israel and the right wing Zionist Movement is always labeled as anti-Semitic by right wing Zionists.
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I'm not claiming he is anti semitic. I am saying he is a worthless lying POS.
 
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