Moderated Views on George Galloway.

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It's clear that this forum is microcosm of Zionist supporters that will never accept someone like George Galloway telling the truth about world issues. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even those who think the world is flat and even those who deny the racist Israeli atrocities.

And whatever your political view it would be folly to deny Galloway the recognition of being a superb orator and having the balls to speak his mind against the tide of Zionist forces. if he were to join this forum he would demolish each and everyone here. You cannot even compete in the slightest!!!

I am no biased Zionist supporter, yet I see him for what he is. I should be supporting him, yet like many on the left in my country I see him for the hypocritic, two faced, lying POS he really is. You know nothing about him.

 

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Watch this heated live exchange between GG and SKY news and critique it.

Yet, many have praised his oratory skills and superior debating techniques then they then link to him shouting down a news reporter and accusing her of Israeli bias.

That is an embarassing piece. I saw it live.

 

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I'd sit back and LMFAO. All the usual tactics of accusing people of racism, complete denial of factual historical events and general fantasy land propaganda would simply crumble.

You done anything yet except derail threads in here. Is this all you can do with all that rage? You dont really care do you? Is it just a fashionable phase you are going through?

If I met Mr Galloway (which I have) and said to him "George, I saw you on TV shaking hands with and praising Saddam Hussein and saying that you and everyone you spoke to were behind him and support him" then he says " No, you are lying I never said that"

What does that say about Mr Galloway? It's there for all to see. Yet he denies it. What does that make my fellow Dundonian?

 

[Zeuzzz]

So thats what I comes down to again? The two times he met sadam hussein like Donald Rumsfeld did? Do you want me to copy and paste the reasons for that again, or will you just ignore them again? Infact, I think I will.

 

[richardm]

Now THAT would be a great event in the forums history He would totally run everyone arguing against him into the ground with his vast politicial unbiased knowledge.

Either that or he'd be banned in a week because he's a hectoring bully.

 

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So thats what I comes down to again? The two times he met sadam hussein like Donald Rumsfeld did? Do you want me to copy and paste the reasons for that again, or will you just ignore them again? Infact, I think I will.

No, you lie again. Do not bring the two wrongs make a right argument. I do not care what Rumsfeld did. I am not from the US. Try again, a little harder this time.

How many times did Galloway go to Iraq in those years and who did he stay with a meet and socialize with? Was it 10, or 20, or 50 or a 100?

If you have a video of someone saying something and then they deny they said it. What does that mean?

Why dont you copy and paste an exact transcript of the video when he meets saddam and explain what it means word for word? Why did you try and post earlier in this thread that it was a translation problem?

What do you call a man who turns on a person and starts to make fun of his alcoholism? Goads and taunts them?

 

[Marc39]

So your responce to me stating that there is ethnic cleansing happening is just to rail off another load of inhumain dictators and their actions, as if they are okay? George would condem them. As he does nearly all middle east dictators (especially the ones put there and supported by the West like the Saudis, Pakistan, Egypt, etc).

None of what you just said are happening today and are ongoing.

The only ethnic cleansing in the Middle East has been committed by Arabs.

A point so lost on you.

 

[Marc39]

GEORGE GALLOWAY WARNS CANADA



The JDL (Jewish Defense League) responsible for his ban is regarded by the FBI as thugs not allowed in the USA. And JDL's views do not represent the vast majority of the jewish people. As george re-clara-iterates again, and again, and again. Most succinctly.

The JDL is a marginal group. Hamas is a government, albeit, a terrorist government.

 

[Thunder]

The only ethnic cleansing in the Middle East has been committed by Arabs.

A point so lost on you.

Israel ethnically cleansed a good 750,000 Arabs during the 1948 war. They then cleansed another 200,000 out of the West Bank during the 1967 war.

 

[WildCat]

Israel ethnically cleansed a good 750,000 Arabs during the 1948 war. They then cleansed another 200,000 out of the West Bank during the 1967 war.

Evidence this happened by Israeli design?

 

[Stout]

Evidence? The last charter I saw had a two state solution. And no anti-semitism, only anti-zionism.
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That's an interesting tack. The usual idea is to say something like "they don't mean that anymore" or something like that to downplay this article in Hamas's charter, but if you feel you can defend that view..then have at 'er.

 

[quixotecoyote]

Israel ethnically cleansed a good 750,000 Arabs during the 1948 war. They then cleansed another 200,000 out of the West Bank during the 1967 war.

Congratulations on helping to make the term 'ethnic cleansing' useless.

 

[WildCat]

That's an interesting tack. The usual idea is to say something like "they don't mean that anymore" or something like that to downplay this article in Hamas's charter, but if you feel you can defend that view..then have at 'er.

Zeuzzzz is simply lying. There is nothing in the charter of Hamas supporting a 2-state solution.

 

[WildCat]

Congratulations on helping to make the term 'ethnic cleansing' useless.

Yep. By parky's definition the US ethnically cleansed Okinawa in WWII.

 

[Marc39]

Evidence this happened by Israeli design?

Is that guy still peddling his fictional account of history? Another member of the Galloway Fan Club requiring no actual knowledge of history.

Please.

Were 700,000 Arabs ethnically cleansed from Palestine by Jews, there would be many news accounts of this.

Where is the film footage?

Where are the newspaper accounts?

They do not exist because...no such thing occurred.

Historians are a welcome antidote to chat room fiction writers...

Benny Morris, author of the definitive book on the '48 War, "1948", states unequivocally that there was no Jewish ethnic cleansing of Arabs and, in fact their displacement was their own doing, ...

The Palestinian Arabs were not responsible in some bizarre way for what befell them in 1948. Their responsibility was very direct and simple.

In defiance of the will of the international community, as embodied in the UN General Assembly Resolution of November 29th, 1947 (No. 181), they launched hostilities against the Jewish community in Palestine in the hope of aborting the emergence of the Jewish state and perhaps destroying that community. But they lost; and one of the results was the displacement of 700,000 of them from their homes.

...on the local level, in dozens of localities around Palestine, Arab leaders advised or ordered the evacuation of women and children or whole communities, as occurred in Haifa in late April, 1948. And Haifa's Jewish mayor, Shabtai Levy, did, on April 22nd, plead with them to stay, to no avail.

Most of Palestine's 700,000 "refugees" fled their homes because of the flail of war (and in the expectation that they would shortly return to their homes on the backs of victorious Arab invaders).

The displacement of the 700,000 Arabs who became "refugees" - and I put the term in inverted commas, as two-thirds of them were displaced from one part of Palestine to another and not from their country (which is the usual definition of a refugee) - was not a racist crime but the result of a national conflict and a war, with religious overtones, from the Muslim perspective, launched by the Arabs themselves.

There was no Zionist "plan" or blanket policy of evicting the Arab population, or of "ethnic cleansing".

 

[Stout]

I'm sure they were bad too, but try to stay on topic of points relevant to Mr Galloway and his views or I will have to start reporting off topic posts.

No need to throw your toys out of the pram here Zeuzzz. You started this thread asking for opinions on why (Opinions?) people might disagree with your assessment of Galloway and that's exactly what your getting.

All this info about the fate of Palestinians in other. Arab, countries just shows as proof that Galloway is more concerned with being anti-Israel than pro "Palestinian"

Look at this quote that you posted in post #426.

In most people's eyes, Israel is a terrorist state! The fact that you cannot comprehend that fact that leads to the bias, which runs through all your reporting, and every question you've been asking me in that interview.

Most people's eyes ??? What "most people" ? The same most people who complain about bias in the MSM when it comes to Israel/Palestine coverage ? The same most people who the blog/alternative media informed left consider themselves vastly more knowledgeable than ?

The sheeple ?

 

[Marc39]

Originally Posted by Zeuzzz
Evidence? The last charter I saw had a two state solution. And no anti-semitism, only anti-zionism.

The "last" Hamas charter read must have been read while sleeping.

Hamas is Arabic for Islamic Resistance Movement. Whom, do you suppose, they were formed to resist? (Much-needed hint: Israel and Jews)

Two-state solution?...

Hamas Covenant

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know.

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As in said in the honourable Hadith:

"The people of Syria are Allah's lash in His land. He wreaks His vengeance through them against whomsoever He wishes among His slaves It is unthinkable that those who are double-faced among them should prosper over the faithful. They will certainly die out of grief and desperation.

 

[Zeuzzz]

The "last" Hamas charter read must have been read while sleeping.

Hamas is Arabic for Islamic Resistance Movement. Whom, do you suppose, they were formed to resist? (Much-needed hint: Israel and Jews)

You couldn't make a much more blatent attempt to link political views against Zionism with and entire religion if you tried! What a disgrace. You just added the 'jew' bit to make it sound like its an anti-semitic view.

And I have no idea what that would have to do with galloway, who no-one has ONCE proved in this thread is in the SLIGHTEST bit anti-semitic.

 

[Marc39]

You couldn't make a much more blatent attempt to link political views against Zionism with and entire religion if you tried! What a disgrace. You just added the 'jew' bit to make it sound like its an anti-semitic view.

Hamas's Charter specifically exhorts that Jews in Palestine/Israel be eliminated, further showcasing the level of ignorance that exists among Galloway's Merry Band of Anti-Semites...

Hamas Covenant Of Sociopaths...

This Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), clarifies its picture, reveals its identity, outlines its stand, explains its aims, speaks about its hopes, and calls for its support, adoption and joining its ranks. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.

Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.

 

[Stout]

Article 7

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

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