Moderated Views on George Galloway.

If Galloway lives for another 1000 years, men will still say this was his finest hour:

 
Pardalis said:
it's "politicians", BTW.
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I'm drunk so lets not be picky about spelling in this thread :p Thats why I fancied an argument here in the first place so started this thread. Its fun debating such an emotive topic.
 
Ziggurat said:
Bull****. He's an admirer of and appologist for all forms of totalitarianism, provided that they're anti-west. Listen to him deny the Tiananmen Square massacre:
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I think that this is slightly out of context. The point he is trying to make is that the Tiananmen Square incident has been used continually and repeatedly to tarnish the whole of China in the West. Sure, it was a dreadful mistake that the chinese authorities regretted. The chinese could equally look at things that have gone wrong in the west and tarnish our image. The whole thing was sensationalized by the western media, there is no question about that. That is why he says this.

Bull****. His pretensions towards democracy only arise in opposition to pro-western authoritarians or in support of anti-western opposition parties. He has no real commitment to democracy at all.
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Apart from getting elected four times as an MP by the british people in public votes :rolleyes: He's a man for the people.
 
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Zeuzzz said:
I am british. And George does not hold contempt for his country; quite the opposite. He loves the people of the UK; its the UK poloticians and companies abusing their power that he dislikes. As do most of the british population.

He is a four times elected member of parliment. The british people voted for him. And continue to do so.
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He stated that the fall of the Soviet Union was the "biggest catastrophe of my life", the Soviet Union that was the greatest threat to Britain under the Cold War is gone and he feels bad?

Yeah, what a guy, i am sure he loves the British people. :rolleyes:

Another quote from the guy:

George Galloway on the average Iraqi's view on Hussein said:
Not at all; not at all... as is obvious now; now they admit that. He was hated by political opponents as he suppressed all opposition political forces, but he wasn't hated by the ordinary Iraqi - no, not at all.
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I don't get it. Three pages, and the words "Big Brother", "Rula Lenska" and "pink leotard" have yet to mentioned.



Rolfe.
 
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As a fellow Scot, I can say he is a bawbag. Nasty arrogant asshat.

His antics on Big Brother were disgusting. Two faced, chidish and underhanded.
 
Zeuzzz said:
I think that this is slightly out of context. The point he is trying to make is that the Tiananmen Square incident has been used continually and repeatedly to tarnish the whole of China in the West. Sure, it was a dreadful mistake that the chinese authorities regretted.
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Really? Can you link to the Chinese apology for killing hundreds of peaceful demonstrators? Or even acknowledging it happened?
 
Arcade22 said:
He stated that the fall of the Soviet Union was the "biggest catastrophe of my life", the Soviet Union that was the greatest threat to Britain under the Cold War is gone and he feels bad?
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Some people would argue that old Mr Reagan was just as big threat in the cold war than the soviet union was. Again, theres two sides to every story, and history is written by the winners.

What distinguished the new cycle of conflict was the dynamic personality of President Ronald W. Reagan, an inveterate cold warrior who labeled the Soviet Union an "evil empire." A former Hollywood actor and two-term California governor, Reagan declared that the country had grown weak but soon would once again "stand tall" in world affairs. The new president embarked on an enormous campaign of militarization reminiscent of similar spurts following NSC 68 (1950) and in the wake of the "missile gap" controversy in the late 1950s and early 1960s.

U.S.–Soviet relations deteriorated sharply in Reagan's first term. Diplomacy virtually ceased. In March 1983 Reagan stunned the Soviets, and threatened to destabilize the nuclear arms race, by announcing his support for a space-based defensive shield. The president glibly declared that nuclear weapons could be rendered "impotent and obsolete" by developing a perfect defense against incoming ballistic missiles. The program, known as the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), was both costly and a violation of the 1972 treaty limiting defensive systems. The Kremlin feared, however, that the initiative would force the Soviets, already suffering from a badly flagging economy, into a costly new arena of superpower competition. The Kremlin bitterly criticized SDI, launched an offensive missile buildup of its own, and accused the United States of enhancing the threat of another world war.
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Zeuzzz said:
I think that this is slightly out of context. The point he is trying to make is that the Tiananmen Square incident has been used continually and repeatedly to tarnish the whole of China in the West.
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Bull****. First off, regardless of the point he's making, he's lying. Secondly, your excuse for why he would lie is simply laughable. The massacred pro-democracy protesters were Chinese, in case you didn't notice, so pointing out the massacre does nothing to "tarnish the whole of China". What it does is tarnish the communist government which ordered the massacre. And Galloway, rather predictably, jumps to its defense. As do you:

Sure, it was a dreadful mistake that the chinese authorities regretted.
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Bull**** again. There's absolutely NO sign the authorities regret it. And why would they? It worked. But it's amusing how you don't just swallow Galloway's lies, you've decided to forge some of your own as well.
 
Rolfe said:
I don't get it. Three pages, and the words "Big Brother", "Rula Lenska" and "pink leotard" have yet to mentioned.



Rolfe.
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LOL, I remember that :D What an idiot for going on that show. Makes me cringe watching that, but lets remember that this was for a task in big brother that he had to do, he didn't just suddenly start doing this!
 
Apart from getting elected four times as an MP by the british people in public votes
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And most of those victories were due to defending rock solid Labour seats where all he had to do was be the Labour candidate to ensure a good result.
Since he was rightly kicked out of that party and joined "respect" he has been very careful in targetting a constituency with a high level of Muslim voters and a very high percentage of anti semites.
He can hardly lose in Bethnal Green and Bow , he could deny the holocaust and his approval ratings would double there.
Hes scum, but you cant say he isnt a smart operator.
 
Ziggurat said:
Bull**** again. There's absolutely NO sign the authorities regret it. And why would they? It worked. But it's amusing how you don't just swallow Galloway's lies, you've decided to forge some of your own as well.
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Okay I'll take a step back from this for a second. I didn't really research it before I wrote that. I will look into his views on this in more detail in a bit to see exactly what he is saying.

So far I think that the point he is making is that although there were definately some deaths that occured there, the death toll has been exagerated by western reports trying to tarnish communist china. His question was where are the images of the alleged hundreds of dead? Why given the worlds media were there is there not more evidence? Sure, we've all seen the footage of the tank and the guy, and a couple of people getting shot at when troops opened fire; but is there actually any hard pictorial/video evidence to back up the death toll claims frequently made in the media?

I dont know. There might be. And he might be wrong about this. Will get googling.
 
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