Moderated Views on George Galloway.

Zeuzzz said:
Likewise for Israel hitting schools in palestine. And every point you say like this I can likely counter with a similar Israeli action. Israel can at least target their weapons very accurately with their technology, yet still seem to be utterly crap at hitting their targets.
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Hamas knowingly hidden in the schools and in civilian areas which BTW is Perfidy.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Likewise for Israel hitting schools in palestine. And every point you say like this I can likely counter with a similar Israeli action.
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There's a term for this fallacy. Really, if thread-bare anti-Israel rhetoric is the only thing you've got with which to defend the reprehensible Galloway, well, you've got nothing.
 
Galloway is to the left of even the more conventional hard left groups (there is a reasonable case to be made that the average highy militant trade union is somewhere to the right of Galloway).

He's prepared to make alliances with some interesting islamic groups. He's never met an anti-american he didn't like. His financial dealings with saddam are ah interesting although probably legal and not as bad as some have claimed.

On the other hand he's a pretty good speaker which can be useful when you want the people he's up against to look like idiots.
 
I dunno why politics has to be uniform.

As a fly in the ointment I like Galloway and we're all the better for it. And if you really REALLY dislike him who is better to love to hate?
 
Ziggurat said:
There's a term for this fallacy. Really, if thread-bare anti-Israel rhetoric is the only thing you've got with which to defend the reprehensible Galloway, well, you've got nothing.
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I dont see any real valid reasons given so far as to why he's so bad. Many british poloticians think that Hamas are not a terrorist state but are the elected govenment, Tony Benn, Nigel Farage, etc, its a point of view. Not a popular one, but one that many people hold none-the-less.

Ziggurat: Do you live in Israel? Because I have gotten the impression from my breif encounters with this polotics section that you are an somewhat ardent Israeli proponent. Are you of the Zionist persuasion?
 
Here's Galloway's heros in action:



And Galloway is your hero Zeuzzz?
 
Johann Hari wrote an article destroying Galloway.

And Christopher Hitchens destroyed him in a debate.

As well as Galloway appearing on the Alex Jones Show.

And Pardalis, Freerepublic descended into Stormfront with that article on Malia Obama.
 
WildCat said:
Here's Galloway's heros in action:



And Galloway is your hero Zeuzzz?
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That video is showing some angry people of different politicial persuasions being very violent. Galloway would hate the people in that video that are being violent. As he opposes all war, hate and violence.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Ziggurat: Do you live in Israel? Because I have gotten the impression from my breif encounters with this polotics section that you are an somewhat ardent Israeli proponent. Are you of the Zionist persuasion?
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Do you live in Iran?

What a pathetic post.
 
Zeuzzz said:
That video is showing some angry people of different politicial persuasions being very violent. Galloway would hate the people in that video that are being violent. As he opposes all war, hate and violence.
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Absolute nonsense. He supports an internationally recognized terrorist group which targets civilians and tortures domestic opponents to death. Which calls for genocide in their official charter.

He makes speeches praising them, he stands by them, he gives them money.

And you think he's a great man?
 
WildCat said:
But it's OK, because the Syrians aren't Jews.
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So your saying that he's anti-semitic now?! Thats a very strong accusation to make. Find one piece of evidence of him being anti-semitic and I'll eat my foot. Anti Zionism is NOT anti Jewish.

This was infact court case number four that he won, the news of the world tried to trick him into making anti-semitic statements covertly. He found them out, sued them, and won the court case. They could provide no evidence he was anti-semitic.
 
Zeuzzz said:
I dont see any real valid reasons given so far as to why he's so bad.
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Indeed, you do not see. None so blind.

Ziggurat: Do you live in Israel? Because I have gotten the impression from my breif encounters with this polotics section that you are an somewhat ardent Israeli proponent. Are you of the Zionist persuasion?
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You can find out what country I live in easily enough if you actually care (I've made it public in the past), but what difference does it make? And what on earth do you mean by "Zionist persuasion"? Come now, don't be coy: what exactly do you mean by that question?
 
WildCat said:
Here's Galloway's heros in action:

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Hey "punishment beatings" were popular in Northern Irland (still are to an extent). I understand that a number of people with links to the IRA are now fairly respected. Come on hamas have thrown people off roofs and thats the best video you can find (with a slight odd cut as well)? Try liveleak.
 
More of Galloway's heros in action:
DALAL al-Shoubaki remembers the day Hamas sent its dreaded Internal Security Service to arrest her husband Hamza.

"It was July 25 last year. They came early in the day to our home and they took Hamza away without saying why," Mrs Shoubaki told The Age this week.

Three weeks ago, the tortured body of the father of 13 was found dumped at Gaza's Shifa Hospital, with two gunshot wounds to the head.
From the types of twigs and leaves found on his clothes, Mr Shoubaki's family believe he was executed in a citrus grove on the outskirts of Gaza City.

Mr Shoubaki had been accused of collaborating with the Government of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, whose Fatah faction holds power in the West Bank. Mr Shoubaki was a vocal supporter of Fatah, and was in almost daily phone contact with his brother, a senior officer in the Government.

His fate is a chilling example of the terror inflicted on dissenters who have lived under the Hamas regime in Gaza since June 2007.
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These are the heros of your hero Zeuzzz.

This is what they do. This is their policy. The people who do this aren't rogue elements, they will not be prosecuted for their crimes or even reprimanded by their boss. They likely will get nothing but praise and commendations from their superiors for a job well done.

And they are praised by George Galloway. And you love Galloway for this?
 
The "Zionist persuasion"... damn, too bad there aren't any stundie nominations for the politics subforum.
 
WildCat said:
Absolute nonsense. He supports an internationally recognized terrorist group which targets civilians and tortures domestic opponents to death. Which calls for genocide in their official charter.
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He does not support Hamas in this sense, infact he has made it clear that he does not support many of Hamas' ideas and policies. He does support Hamas however when it comes to them having a right to defend themselves, for them to have a go at running as the elected govenment without interference from Israel, and he only really speaks about Hamas when there are unjust things happening in palestine. He's far from an ardent Hamas supporter: Its just that when Israel and Hamas are at war or fighting he will side with Hamas, for humanitarian reasons, and countless other historical reasons.

He makes speeches praising them, he stands by them, he gives them money.
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He gives AID as donated by the british people to people devastated by war. Not just money.

And you think he's a great man?
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Yep.
 
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