Video Game as recruitment tools? Say what?

[abenja1]

For what it's worth I think it's a matter of fact that the US Military does have computer games it uses for recruiting tools, and I also think there's a pretty good argument that certain computer games do condition people to be better killers.

But I hardly see how any of that belongs in the CT forum. What's the conspiracy?

For every study that says games condition people to be better killers, there is one that says that is not true. The CT in my eyes is that the CTers say the gov't (NWO) is releasing and making these games as recruitiing tools and that the games make people killers. I don't see the streets running with blood caused by people who played GTA or hordes of people lining up to join the army after playing Call of Duty. There is also no evidence that the gov't is involved with these video games. The video game makers will usually hire a technical advisor to oversee so that weapons, costumes, and locations are accurate. But the idea some evil dude whose twittling his moustache is making these games is ridiculous.

 

[gumboot]

Army and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't brush your teeth without a toothbrush, and you can't be a serial killer without joining the military.

Actually the majority of US Serial Killers never served in the military, and of those that did, many of them served during WW1 or WW2 when everyone served. If the military really did produce serial killers there should have been massive rises in serial killing globally in the 1920's - 30's and again from the 1950's to 1960's.

There wasn't.

 

[abenja1]

If you look at the statistics and see how many people on death row are also ex-servicemen you will see that the real evil conspiracy is the military.

For example(one of many, and indirectly of course) Richard Ramirez A.K.A. "The Night Stalker" watched his uncles girlfriend get blown in the head. His uncle was a green beret.

Anyway, a lot of men on "The Row" once served in the military.

Army and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't brush your teeth without a toothbrush, and you can't be a serial killer without joining the military.

Or having an abusive father or relative who was ex-military.

I would love to argue how much your post reeks of hatred of the military but I must request you stay on topic.

 

[ronpaulisright]

RPIR, your whole post gets a "WTF?" from me.

Why? There is no need for conspiracy.

There are video games that have secret messages in them. Subliminal messages.

Video games that seem harmless at first, but see underlies a sinister agenda.

 

[abenja1]

Why? There is no need for conspiracy.

There are video games that have secret messages in them. Subliminal messages.

Video games that seem harmless at first, but see underlies a sinister agenda.

And you got any evidence for this? Just so you know imagainary AP articles don't count as evidence.

 

[gc051360]

Why?

Because of statements like this:

Army and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't brush your teeth without a toothbrush, and you can't be a serial killer without joining the military.

eta: Also, the entire post is flawed. If you can show the statistics, that a significant amount of people on death row, are ex-military....you'd still have to prove a causal relationship.

There are video games that have secret messages in them. Subliminal messages.

Examples?

Video games that seem harmless at first, but see underlies a sinister agenda.

Examples?

 

[bynmdsue]

and you can't be a serial killer without joining the military.

Or having an abusive father or relative who was ex-military.

Gots ta spread it thin to cover all the bases.

 

[ronpaulisright]

I would love to argue how much your post reeks of hatred of the military but I must request you stay on topic.

It stems from how much I hate war.

I was on topic. There is no conspiracy unless you are talking about subliminal messages in video games.

Like in the "Karate Kid" Daniel san thinks that all he is doing is cleaning and maintaining Mr. Miyagi's house but when he realizes that all he has been doing has been making him a grand karate wizard.

Apply THAT ^^^^^^^^ , To some video games' purposes.

 

[gumboot]

For every study that says games condition people to be better killers, there is one that says that is not true.

I think we have a very poor understanding of the psychology of killing, and that in fact there's virtually no studies relating to it. I didn't say "to be better killers" I said "conditioned to kill". Even the military - who have unlocked the process of conditioning, have very little understanding of the process involved. I think you'll find most of these studies you've mentioned are relating to desensitisation to violence or connections between committing killings and playing computer games. That's not what I'm talking about.

The CT in my eyes is that the CTers say the gov't (NWO) is releasing and making these games as recruitiing tools and that the games make people killers. I don't see the streets running with blood caused by people who played GTA or hordes of people lining up to join the army after playing Call of Duty. There is also no evidence that the gov't is involved with these video games. The video game makers will usually hire a technical advisor to oversee so that weapons, costumes, and locations are accurate. But the idea some evil dude whose twittling his moustache is making these games is ridiculous.

Ah I see. Yes, that is a ridiculous CT. But aren't they all?

 

[ronpaulisright]

And you got any evidence for this? Just so you know imagainary AP articles don't count as evidence.

I'm sure there are thousands out there. Mainly ones in the fantasy, RPG, fairies and demons genre.

 

[bynmdsue]

I'd just like to say I've played plenty of Medal of Honor and Call of Duty games and I really,really have no interest in engaging in actual combat.

 

[gumboot]

There are video games that have secret messages in them. Subliminal messages.

Subliminal messaging doesn't work.

 

[bynmdsue]

Rpir doesn't hate war,He hates America(and Israel)

 

[ronpaulisright]

I hate war too.

Anyway it's just like the whole stupid thing with innuendo in songs. "naw man, he's talking about eating a cherry pie." If you think that there is not a subliminal message in that then you are naive.

Many games probably have them.

 

[abenja1]

I'm sure there are thousands out there. Mainly ones in the fantasy, RPG, fairies and demons genre.

I'm sure the moon is made of cheese. That doesn't make me right. Please provide evidence RPIR

 

[VespaGuy]

If you look at the statistics and see how many people on death row are also ex-servicemen you will see that the real evil conspiracy is the military.

For example(one of many, and indirectly of course) Richard Ramirez A.K.A. "The Night Stalker" watched his uncles girlfriend get blown in the head. His uncle was a green beret.

Anyway, a lot of men on "The Row" once served in the military.

Army and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't brush your teeth without a toothbrush, and you can't be a serial killer without joining the military.

Or having an abusive father or relative who was ex-military.

Wrong again. It's toasters. Seriously. Toasters.

Listen:
Richard Ramirez owned a toaster, and so did his uncle.
A lot of men on "the Row" once owned toasters.
Toasters and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't make toast without a toaster and you can't be a serial killer without owning a toaster.
Or having an abusive father or relative who owned a toaster.

 

[gc051360]

I hate war too.

Anyway it's just like the whole stupid thing with innuendo in songs. "naw man, he's talking about eating a cherry pie." If you think that there is not a subliminal message in that then you are naive.

Many games probably have them.

I thought that you may be on the track of making a point about violent video games desensitizing people to violence.

I thought you were on the cusp of actually making a point that made sense.

But then you bring up examples of Karate Kid, and Warrant.

 

[abenja1]

I think we have a very poor understanding of the psychology of killing, and that in fact there's virtually no studies relating to it. I didn't say "to be better killers" I said "conditioned to kill". Even the military - who have unlocked the process of conditioning, have very little understanding of the process involved. I think you'll find most of these studies you've mentioned are relating to desensitisation to violence or connections between committing killings and playing computer games. That's not what I'm talking about.




Ah I see. Yes, that is a ridiculous CT. But aren't they all?

Sorry. Misinterpreted what you said. It's trying to find proof the military is conditioning people through video games. I'm sure there are people who played GTA ran out of their house 10 min later, and stole a car, beat up someone the whole shebang. There is evidence of desensitisation to violence from video games. If you ever get a chance you should read Grand Theft Auto Childhood. It's a great book that shows the flaws of studies on both sides.

 

[ronpaulisright]

Wrong again. It's toasters. Seriously. Toasters.

Listen:
Richard Ramirez owned a toaster, and so did his uncle.
A lot of men on "the Row" once owned toasters.
Toasters and serial killers go hand in hand. You can't make toast without a toaster and you can't be a serial killer without owning a toaster.
Or having an abusive father or relative who owned a toaster.

You are just showing your insensitivity. He witnessed a point blank MURDER! That's different from owning a toaster

What you are implying is stupid and naive.

 

[ronpaulisright]

Do video games desensitize children? Maybe the stupid ones.

It is in the eye of the beholder. What if after playing GTA vice city he wanted to join the priesthood?

What about Aladdin for sega genesis? Doesn't that have subliminal messages of cheating on your wife?