Video: Bombs Going Off Before The 2nd Plane Hits?

I would love to visit your site. i would love to review the information you have given, watch the videos, and check your math. However, I was banned from your site after only 24 hours and 2 posts...
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Arguments claiming that the WTC were brought down by a controlled demolition and involved the use of thermite are contradictory right from the start.
Yup. One of the hallmarks of CTers is that the conspiracy has to get weirder and weirder as the first bits are debunked. Ed forbid that the theory should fall; no, the detailers just get more complex.

So someone comes up with "controlled demolition." Well, as you point out, one of the things done in a controlled demolition of a steel structure is that the structure is weakened -- some columns are cut entirely, others are cut part way through, etc. An operation which takes months and couldn't be done without being noticed by the actual people in the buldings, who presumably would object to someone stripping off the sheetrock and cutting slices into the columns which are holding them up. So now someone has to come up with a way for the building to undergo "controlled demolition" using methods other than those traditionally used for "controlled demolition." Aha! Thermite is very hot when it reacts! It could 'melt' the steel! And because it's 'less' controlled than an actual "controlled demolition," that explains why the towers didn't fall in their own footprints like they had earlier claimed.

Because that's not what is usually done with thermite and because the steel did in fact heat far enough to weaken, it becomes difficult to debunk. Or in other words, it's difficult to debunk precisely because it's so ridiculous.

The Loosers are reading this -- just wait. Because you correctly mentioned that a thermite reaction takes some time to get underway, they'll probably incorporate that to 'explain' why the towers did not fall at "free fall" speeds like they've been claiming.


ETA: In fact, they'll probably cite the new "fact" to a "military demolitions expert with experience in the steel industry." So congratulations! You could have your words twisted beyond recognition by a CTer. ;)
 
Doubt, thanks for your insight. I also wondered about the thermite reaction. I've seen it demonstrated in a chemistry experiment video and although it is a violent and exothermic reaction, it didn't look like an explosion to me. As a kid I did mix up some compounds based on ammonium nitrate but I gave that up a long time ago. Lucky for me I didn't know about thermite!

Here's a Wikipedia article about thermite:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

There are several uses for thermite, mostly for welding, but none for demolition or causing things to explode.
 
I put watched in quotes because we had to turn our backs away from the flash.

Just cleaning up my abuse of English. We turned our backs to the thermite so we were not facing it.

Manny's last comments bother me because he could be right. A disclaimer my be in order. I don't consider myself an expert on anything.

The one time I did help set up a steel cutting charge it acted differently than we thought it would. But we understood why after it happened. Never put the cutting charge on the end of an I-beam that is not anchored. the desired shearing action won't happen.
 
Yup. One of the hallmarks of CTers is that the conspiracy has to get weirder and weirder as the first bits are debunked. Ed forbid that the theory should fall; no, the detailers just get more complex.

So someone comes up with "controlled demolition." Well, as you point out, one of the things done in a controlled demolition of a steel structure is that the structure is weakened -- some columns are cut entirely, others are cut part way through, etc. An operation which takes months and couldn't be done without being noticed by the actual people in the buldings, who presumably would object to someone stripping off the sheetrock and cutting slices into the columns which are holding them up. So now someone has to come up with a way for the building to undergo "controlled demolition" using methods other than those traditionally used for "controlled demolition." Aha! Thermite is very hot when it reacts! It could 'melt' the steel! And because it's 'less' controlled than an actual "controlled demolition," that explains why the towers didn't fall in their own footprints like they had earlier claimed.

Because that's not what is usually done with thermite and because the steel did in fact heat far enough to weaken, it becomes difficult to debunk. Or in other words, it's difficult to debunk precisely because it's so ridiculous.

The Loosers are reading this -- just wait. Because you correctly mentioned that a thermite reaction takes some time to get underway, they'll probably incorporate that to 'explain' why the towers did not fall at "free fall" speeds like they've been claiming.


ETA: In fact, they'll probably cite the new "fact" to a "military demolitions expert with experience in the steel industry." So congratulations! You could have your words twisted beyond recognition by a CTer. ;)

The only problem with this is that it completely invalidates any claims of "squibs" or flashes of light. It would have taken much longer for the building to collapse from flash to fall. Of course, I don't doubt that they could still make the claim. However, it seems easy to debunk.
 
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Could be an IP ban, in which case Googling 'anonymizer' will help with a solution ;)

(Can't offer links as I'm at work and they're all blocked)
 

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