Very nice ufo video

I see that UFO Watchdog, Royce Meyers, has presented a pretty interesting webpage concerning this UFO video.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/arizonaufo.html

I guess the most interesting link come from the videographer himself. Apparently, he is not to thrilled with wahrheit's recreation.

http://www.ufotheatre.com/debunking/nobunk2.htm

Reading his description of the recreation video gives the impression he has not viewed the video recreation.

I think the biggest blow to the creator of this video has to be that he did not show up to have his video analyzed when he agreed to do so.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/arizonaufofake.html

Personally, I felt the video was a fake the instant I saw it. It just looked too much like a staged event.
 
Astrophotographer said:
I see that UFO Watchdog, Royce Meyers, has presented a pretty interesting webpage concerning this UFO video.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/arizonaufo.html

I guess the most interesting link come from the videographer himself. Apparently, he is not to thrilled with wahrheit's recreation.

http://www.ufotheatre.com/debunking/nobunk2.htm

Reading his description of the recreation video gives the impression he has not viewed the video recreation.

I think the biggest blow to the creator of this video has to be that he did not show up to have his video analyzed when he agreed to do so.

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/arizonaufofake.html

Personally, I felt the video was a fake the instant I saw it. It just looked too much like a staged event.
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Thanks, interesting links. The "debunking of the debunkers" page of the ufotheatre people seems to be written by an angry 12-year old who is upset that mom made ugly remarks regarding his newest toy and that daddy threatens to take it away from him.

I already posted days ago that no 3D rendering was used, neither in my videos nor theirs, yet he still calls my tape "some cheap lights rendered in 3d". No comment left to make about his reputation. Though he picked up me mentioning that my orbs were filmed off a monitor, wow. Saying that my lights don't flicker is not only a lie (they do, I even programmed them to flicker randomly), it also explains why his orbs flicker, as well: The monitor does it, since the camera (amateur) and the screen won't synchronize. My claim: this UFO kid knows jack about what he is talking. Sorry, but sometimes frank words are appropriate, I think.
 
I still feel that the filming of a reflected monitor can't explain some things in the ufotheatre video - the fact that there are pairs of identical, pixel-aligned, orbs, or the single pixel orbs as they "fly in". It would also explain why all the orbs flicker in time with each other, and why one orb has a brighter glow - in order to seemlessly paste copies of that original orb, you would have to adjust the levels until the background noise disappeared, and that would take down the brightness of the glow.

And here's another interesting fact that's just come to my attention - the mountain in the background is South Mountain, which as it's name suggests is south of Phoenix. And south is where you'd see the Moon, or Jupiter, in the sky. And, because we've just passed the summer solstice, the Moon and planets appear low in the sky, just like this object.

Mind you, if it was done "in post" he's probably bitter that he didn't think of doing it the wahrheit way :D

I've borrowed a video camera and still intend to duplicate the video with the copy/paste method, but with houses to the South of me the Moon isn't appearing very high at all (apparently tonight it will be lower in the sky than it has been for 20 years).

David
 
DavoMan said:
Wow thats one hell of a find. You must have the eye of a hawk, or a world champion needle-in-haystack finding guy.

Just so people can see the block you're talking about, here it is with a line around it:
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I think the rectangle is a bit more to the left, a bit less wide and a bit taller, and it is enclosing the white spots, the aliens....wooooo
 
Yeah my line isn't very specific. Must be that damned idiomotor response again.:D
 
wahrheit said:
Though he picked up me mentioning that my orbs were filmed off a monitor, wow.
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No, I think what he's saying there is that your footage was shown on Channel 3, and that THEY simply filmed it playing on a monitor for their broadcast. They didn't broadcast it "clean", so that people could analyse it close up.
 
TheBoyPaj said:
No, I think what he's saying there is that your footage was shown on Channel 3, and that THEY simply filmed it playing on a monitor for their broadcast. They didn't broadcast it "clean", so that people could analyse it close up.
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Oh, maybe I misunderstood that UFO guy, then. Anyway, everybody can download my fake video from the web and watch it as close as they want, his argument is as vacuous as the rest of his rant.

"BIG" news: ufotheatre.com has uploaded new, even more ridiculous UFO footage.

Go to http://www.ufotheatre.com/ and scroll down to
"* LATEST UFO NEWS *
06/21/2005 4:13 PM - Arizona Time
Check out this awesome large triangle floating next to a star high in the sky!"

There's a screenshot and a download link on their site.

It's nothing but three blinking lights against a pitch dark sky, and a "star".

I call it "The NTSC UFO" because these aliens have a soft spot for the U.S. TV broadcast format, NTSC. They turn their lights on and of in in total sync with NTSC. Light on in one frame, and the next frame they are completely dark.

I went through the video frame by frame, there is not one single frame where the lights of the three UFOs are about to brighten, there's not a single frame after a light occured where you can see the slightest trace or remainder of the light source. Thus: "They" signal us in US TV technology, wow! I thought it was the movies making us think "they" would, of course, first contact the White House or at least show themselves to an American astronomer. No -- they even use the same technology and use 30 (29,97) frames per second for their light show. (The UFO guys will say it is "flashes" of light, that's why they don't turn on and off softly. Strange though, the other Phoenix aliens did have a dimmer switch aboard.)

The lightshow itself looks like a toy with LEDs, and the pattern of on/off reminds me of those small electronic kits where you can solder your first own electronic LED dice ;)

I guess on of the ufotheatre kids (I assume it is a "kid", I don't know) was all excited about the Phoenix hype, read about that mirror thing and how easy it is to fake such a video and thought -- why not give it a try?
 
Isn't it weird how you can only see a single star?

There's not even enough to analyse in this new one.

David
 
And why wave the camera around so much? I mean, I can understand a bit of a wiggle if you're on a long zoom, but it's shooting around all over the place. It's almost as if they're deliberately doing it because they know that it makes the UFO look more real.
 
TheBoyPaj said:
And why wave the camera around so much? I mean, I can understand a bit of a wiggle if you're on a long zoom, but it's shooting around all over the place. It's almost as if they're deliberately doing it because they know that it makes the UFO look more real.
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Excellent point.

And also the motion does not seem to me like that of someone holding the camera and moving it around - it looks more like it is on a tripod and being panned all over the place.

Why? Why would you wave the camera around if it is on a tripod, yet the object is in one place?

And, at the risk of over analysing the film, it seems like the wobble gets worse towards the end, almost as if the cameraman thought "Have I wobbled it around enough? Better give it a last good jiggle to be sure."
 
TheBoyPaj, Ashles: Exactly my thought. Why that overdone wiggling? I did it myself, admitted, to give the video that certain touch of amateurism, but this new UFO video allegedly "is over 30 minutes long and the object never moves" as they say on their site.

You wonder why there's not a few seconds of tape without the tripod vellicating like a frog leg at 10,000 volts.
 
That bigtriangle2005.mpg file there looks like he's plugged his NTSC video player into a PAL tv and the timing is screwed up.

Ya can kinda do the same thing if you have TV-output on your computer and plug it into a PAL TV & set your tv-output to NTSC.
 
They're baaaaack!

I've come into possession of an explosive piece of footage. Without a doubt this establishes the existence of reptoids from Zeta Reticuli, who travelled here on the back of a comet:

http://monkey.dynip.org.uk/lights.avi

:eek:

I recommend turning up your brightness to bring out the background artefacts, or viewing it in VirtualDub (Media Player etc play it back very dark).

Also, VirtualDub will allow to examine the interlacing - the Divx codec seems to fudge the interlacing on playback through a media player.

David
 
Well, I can't get it to even find the link to the original video any more. I think maybe, in embarrassment, they've taken it down.

Back in middle school, I used a Commodore 64 and a bright monitor to project 'flying saucer' lights onto a pane of glass to film for a school project - it worked like you wouldn't believe. Unfortunately, I have no clue what happened to that old film.

It was easy to do 20 or so years ago - imagine what we can accomplish today!
 
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