Vegans rely on faith, kill their child

[Jon_in_london]

Do vegans wear leather? I know a vegetarian who does. Its funny to watch her squirm when she get all high'n'mighty and I just point to her shoes

 

[Gastric ReFlux]

http://www.pamrotella.com/health/b12.html



THAT said, let's reiterate the first post in the thread: these 2 doofusses that this poor kid had to call parents didn't give the kid ANY suppliments for B12, even though they knew that it's a VITAMIN, and that they weren't giving the kid anything that had B12 in it.

They were relying on prayer to magically produce co-enzymes in the kid's body.

Here's your interesting philosophical question: at what point does religion become indistinguishable from a mental disease?

When you call your imaginary friend Jesus?

 

[bignickel]

Do vegans wear leather? I know a vegetarian who does. Its funny to watch her squirm when she get all high'n'mighty and I just point to her shoes

Not exactly the right question. How about this: "Do vegans or vegetarians buy any products that require the death of an animal?"

The answer to that would be 'no.'

* I have a leather jacket, and I'm a vegetarian. How can I wear such a thing? Easy: I got it before I became a vegetarian. So: to all you omnivores out there thinking of cutting meat from your diet... buy a LOT of leather clothes before you do. Wallets, jackets, belts, etc. (NOT pants, as it's been proven that wearing leather pants takes 5 years off your life )

 

[Jon_in_london]

Not exactly the right question. How about this: "Do vegans or vegetarians buy any products that require the death of an animal?"

The answer to that would be 'no.'

* I have a leather jacket, and I'm a vegetarian. How can I wear such a thing? Easy: I got it before I became a vegetarian. So: to all you omnivores out there thinking of cutting meat from your diet... buy a LOT of leather clothes before you do. Wallets, jackets, belts, etc. (NOT pants, as it's been proven that wearing leather pants takes 5 years off your life )

Thats like buying a massive freezer, filling it with meat, declaring "Im a vegetarian" and continuing to eat the meat out of the freezer!

 

[CFLarsen]

(NOT pants, as it's been proven that wearing leather pants takes 5 years off your life )

Shirley, you jest?

 

[Gastric ReFlux]

Thats like buying a massive freezer, filling it with meat, declaring "Im a vegetarian" and continuing to eat the meat out of the freezer!

Excellent plan. I need now to make estimates of how much meat I will need to last for 40 years. Well 50, to be on the safe side. I don't want to be a vegetarian that's stuck eating only vegetables.

 

[Jon_in_london]

Another thing is that the harvesting of vegetables leads to the death of loads of furry creatures caught in the harvesters. Surely then a true vegetrian would have to grow and/or harvest their own food?

 

[Gastric ReFlux]

Another thing is that the harvesting of vegetables leads to the death of loads of furry creatures caught in the harvesters. Surely then a true vegetrian would have to grow and/or harvest their own food?

The Great Maddox weighs in

 

[bignickel]

Another thing is that the harvesting of vegetables leads to the death of loads of furry creatures caught in the harvesters. Surely then a true vegetrian would have to grow and/or harvest their own food?

Ah, but then you're running into the old "One True Vegetarian" fallacy.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

It just bugs me to end that parents listen to loons that are allowed to recommend these diets as a way to be pious or whatever. Or when they listen to quacks and the kid gets malnourished.

I had a babysitter that was trying to get me to stop giving milk to my one year old and give her protein powder to drink instead. That's what she gave her child. I hear it's not good for the kidneys.

I think she was giving it to my daughter. My daughter starting getting allergies and really bad diaper rashes during the week when she went to the babysitter. She would start to clear up on the weekends.

Then I found out the babysitter was also antivaccine and everything else. I yanked my daughter out of there! She was sickly for 6 months until I did. She had a cold going into the place, but she never got better until she got completely out of the place.

I can't believe I let my own child get affected by idiocy, it angers me so much. I complained to the people that ran the dayhome, but they spewed the "choice" crap. I now pay $75 more per month to take her to a normal dayhome.

There ought to be some laws against denying children adequate nutrition. There ought to be some laws about lies in print about nutrition and health.. Freedom of speech my @ss, it's lies. There is a clear and distinct line between lies and truth.

 

[EdipisReks]

There is a clear and distinct line between lies and truth.

not necessarily. in this case, however, yes.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

It's a lie that just following the diet without ensuring proper nutrition will be better for your child.

Parents need education. They are just relying on blind faith. Who told them to go on this diet, yet neglected to make sure proper nutrition was taken in? The people that tell people to follow these diets need to be punished if they don't follow some rather simple guidelines.

They have no excuses if they are aware of what must be done to make sure everyone gets the information they need before being told to follow those diets.

A doctor would be punished if he told a person to put their child on some vegatarian diet without making sure he tells them how to make sure the child gets all the vitamins they need.

 

[Robin]

You know some of us just don't like the taste of meat.

And aren't there whole vegetarian cultures, such as in parts of India. If it is so bad for you why aren't they all dead?

 

[bignickel]

Let's not turn this into the usual veg vs omni threads. Since it not's about that.

It's about people who disregard the facts about what chemicals the human body needs, withhold those chemicals from their baby, and believe that the invisible pink unicorn will give the baby the chemicals.

They are guilty of dereliction of duty in the raising of their baby, and shouldn't be let near another one.

 

[Kiwi Kid]

Here's some legal comment about the Caleb case. Two other cases are also discussed. All three involve the unnecessary death of a child and all three piss me off intensely. The case of Liam was even more frustrating because a large proportion of the public here supported the parents' choice. Just shows that they didn't realise how useless the sCAM treatments are. The boy died less than two years later. I wonder what would what would happen today in the same circumstances? I would do my damndest to speak out and save a child's life.

Informed Consent and Paediatricians (New Zealand)

I have a sneaking suspicion that the parents did have another child. I'll try and confirm that.

Simon.

 

[Kiwi Kid]

I was right. The "mother" was pregnant before the trial ever started! Here is a news article of the sentencing: Convicted mother pregnant

I wonder if the social workers took the new baby into care. Hope so.

 

[Ove]

I wonder if the social workers took the new baby into care. Hope so.

They must, period....

And then i agree with bignickel, they must sterilize both parents so that such moroons NEVER gets children again AND a put record in their papers that makes sure that they'll NEVER be allowed a job that has anything to do with children.

 

[BillHoyt]

That's not true. In the Garden of Eden all the creatures even the dinosaurs were vegetarians. I read that somewhere.

Somebody gently break the news to Gastric ReFlux that Jack Chick is somewhat less than a reliable source.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Hmm. If the animals in Eden were all vegetarian, then how about the Venus flytrap? Did it eat other plants instead? How?

 

[c4ts]

Venis fliytrap is the creeation of SATUN!!! There was some EVILution goin' awn!!!