Vedic Astrology : Open Thread

[steenkh]

He sent over 8 pages of Life Analysis and I cant post everything. But because I know me, I can say those very accurate and specific. Not every bit of it was true to the letter. But 70-80% was and specific.

I have just read "Cold Reading" by Ian Rowland. In the book he tells how he writes several pages of astrological stuff for a television show and this is presented to two different people with two different birth signs, and both of them found it amazingly accurate!

Could you publish some of your "life analysis" and tell us where you find it accurate?

 

[The Don]

Again it goes to how specific the predictions were, and how specific you've subsequently made them since.

The prediction

"She has a power to treat others. She will be a therpist or Reiki healer."

Is actually wrong if the person in question is already a healer. You're so desperate for the predictions to be correct that you've overlooked this fact.

The other problem I have with horoscopes that require birth time is that this is often recorded inaccurately. My own is limited to a particular day, others I know have it down to the hour, but even then, it's whatever the midwife chose to write down.

As Steenkh has suggested, try posting the predictions here, you may be disappointed to find that they are as accurate for some or all of us as they are for you.

 

[steenkh]

As Steenkh has suggested, try posting the predictions here, you may be disappointed to find that they are as accurate for some or all of us as they are for you.

At least it could be accurate for the Indians among us. Cold reading is based a lot on a knowledge of culture. In western cultures astronomical charts that are made without knowledge of the sex of the client will probably get more hits if they are slanted towards female aspects.

 

[Mojo]

I knew it was coming. I am really sorry but I cant at this stage. Not without asking permissions from the owners.

Now why does this set alarm bells ringing? There's this marvelous website that can provide the evidence to back up your claims, but you can't tell us the address?

 

[Hawk one]

I knew it was coming. I am really sorry but I cant at this stage. Not without asking permissions from the owners.

The owners of the astrology web site, you mean? Guess what. You don't need to ask them. Seriously. They put up a web site on the internet, that means they have for all intents and reasons put it up in the public domain, which means anyone and everyone can put up a link to them, and nobody has to ask permission. Because such a permission is in fact given by the aforementioned fact that they do put it up in public. (Of course, you can't repost the entire content of their webpage, as that will breach copyright laws. But linking to them is totally OK.)


And just in case you're referring to how you've actually previously been denied by this forum to put up a link: Now that you're past 15 posts, you can post up links as much as you like.

 

[burrahobbit]

If you are a UK Indian, your accent will tell anyone so. In that case predicting that you will travel in 4 months is the easiest thing in the world. I do not need to know the IT stuff.

Older Indians are very sensitive to accents. My father can place a man from my state to the specific district (within 75 km) in 5 minutes or less.

Counter anecdote

My Grandfather was a noted astrologer. Very intelligent man, consulted by a lot of people. He cast his own horoscope and predicted that he would die at 40. So he settled his affairs at that time and waited. Couple of years lated, he gave up waiting. Died at around 80. He was a consultant astrologer (unpaid) till the end but used to joke about his own prediction.

 

[Zep]

ManLondon, remember also that your father referred you to the astrologer. Which means he was in contact with him. Which means that your father may well be the inadvertant source of much personal information about you (such as your proposed travel plans, which I suspect were already known and discussed by you and your family before you went to the astrologer).

And maybe not even directly from him, but through a friend or relative who knows the astrologer also, for example. You know how some people like to chat and gossip about their families...hmmm?

 

[steenkh]

Which means that your father may well be the inadvertant source of much personal information about you (such as your proposed travel plans, which I suspect were already known and discussed by you and your family before you went to the astrologer).

Hm, no! ManLondon clearly said that the travel happened two months after the prediction and that it was planned with a short notice.

 

[case sensitive]

Maybe it is a common problem but I felt it was specific because he very strongly had written that SERIOUS PROBLEM IN THAT AREA, SINCE BIRTH AND SOMETHING THAT DOCTORS WILL FAIL TO DIAGNOSE OR TREAT. I felt it was specific. Not like saying "you may have a weak or upset stomach."

She is only 24 and SINCE THE AGE OF 12-14 SHE HAS THIS PROBLEM. Since then she has been regluarly seeking treatment but still no better. I know, even today she goes to doctor once a week.

You say she had had this problem since age 12-14 years of age and the astrologer said she had it from the birth. How is that right?

Why is your friend going to the doctor once a week if it can't be treated?

 

[case sensitive]

I donot rule out the possibility that the astrologer may have gathered some information about me, but I doubt it because I also went to see this astrologer with my father. There are over 1 billion people in India and only a fraction of people get on a flight flying out of India.

Yes most people in India can't afford to travel abroad. But well educated people can. Are you in that category? I am guessing that your dad is somewhat rich and has a higher social status than the average Indian. Now what are the chances of a proud Indian father bragging about his son when talking to an astrologer?

There is nothing amazing here. It is time for you to give up your sacred cow!

 

[ManLondon]

I have just read "Cold Reading" by Ian Rowland. In the book he tells how he writes several pages of astrological stuff for a television show and this is presented to two different people with two different birth signs, and both of them found it amazingly accurate!

Could you publish some of your "life analysis" and tell us where you find it accurate?

Was he using vedic astrology (Indian astrology)? I cant vouch for other astrological predictions based on my research and experience.

 

[ManLondon]

Again it goes to how specific the predictions were, and how specific you've subsequently made them since.

The prediction

Is actually wrong if the person in question is already a healer. You're so desperate for the predictions to be correct that you've overlooked this fact.

The other problem I have with horoscopes that require birth time is that this is often recorded inaccurately. My own is limited to a particular day, others I know have it down to the hour, but even then, it's whatever the midwife chose to write down.

As Steenkh has suggested, try posting the predictions here, you may be disappointed to find that they are as accurate for some or all of us as they are for you.

For my friends, I got Life Analysis - which is predications for the whole life. i.e. the "will be" is in her life-time.

I am sorry but, it amazes me that so many people have chosen to ignore the fact that only time in her horoscope, profession was mentioned was in these exact lines. It is true, and cant get any more specific than that.

 

[ManLondon]

At least it could be accurate for the Indians among us. Cold reading is based a lot on a knowledge of culture. In western cultures astronomical charts that are made without knowledge of the sex of the client will probably get more hits if they are slanted towards female aspects.

Three people that I have discussed in my opening post, were born in three different countries - currently in UK.

 

[LTC8K6]

So far, you haven't posted anything that sounds like the astrologers predicted anything, ManLondon. Sounds like the same old cold and hot reading these "predictions" always seem to boil down to.

 

[ManLondon]

Now why does this set alarm bells ringing? There's this marvelous website that can provide the evidence to back up your claims, but you can't tell us the address?

Mojo, there are no alarm bells. For the record, I have had my predictions done from this website. I have no personal economic interest in this website.

I would not like to be make bad causes by playing a part in something that badmouths this website on internet. I would like to give them benefit of doubt, the very least.

I will have to think of some other way to get it tested from the form. Will think about it.

Initially, when I posted this thread, I wanted to just get thoughts, comments and experiences from different people on Vedic Astrology so as to get to a conclusion. I wasnt planning to get this website into limelight.

 

[Odin]

Mojo, there are no alarm bells. For the record, I have had my predictions done from this website. I have no personal economic interest in this website.

I would not like to be make bad causes by playing a part in something that badmouths this website on internet. I would like to give them benefit of doubt, the very least.

I will have to think of some other way to get it tested from the form. Will think about it.

Initially, when I posted this thread, I wanted to just get thoughts, comments and experiences from different people on Vedic Astrology so as to get to a conclusion. I wasnt planning to get this website into limelight.

But if it's actually any good, it won't be criticised.

 

[JLam]

ManLondon, would you be willing to send my personal details to the astrologer and then let me look at the results? I know my time of birth too!

But I'm confused. First you said that the astrologer told your friend about the medical condition and the fact that the other one was the Reiki healer. Then you said it was "through emails." Then you wrote that you inputted the information into a computer and it spit back the analysis within seconds. So which is it? Did they get a reading from the astrologer, or did a computer do the reading? What on earth are you talking about?

 

[ManLondon]

The other problem I have with horoscopes that require birth time is that this is often recorded inaccurately. My own is limited to a particular day, others I know have it down to the hour, but even then, it's whatever the midwife chose to write down.

I know in India, lots of people have this problem. But there is solution for this. If someone is not very about his or her birth time, then an experienced astrologer can look at the lines in palm. (Palmistry) and maybe ask few questions about life to get to the exact time. It is like Reverse Engineering.

The most likely planet that will change its house in short time, is Moon. Which moves from one house to the next one in 2.5 minutes. Rest of planets take much longer and even years.

Vedic Astrology is about 2500 years old and at that time, they had very precise calculations for positions of stars and planets from any geograhical location. So they know what is planet is at what position at any give time.

 

[ManLondon]

But if it's actually any good, it won't be criticised.

Somehow, from the responses so far, I very much doubt it. Please feel free to go through the posts again from the top.

Really, I would not like not be part of blame game directed towards this website. At least, for the time being, while I am still keeping my eyes open.

There is a personal interest as well. I have found this website after much research and testing and this is miles ahead of others.

 

[ManLondon]

If you are a UK Indian, your accent will tell anyone so. In that case predicting that you will travel in 4 months is the easiest thing in the world. I do not need to know the IT stuff.

I was born in India and spend all my life in India until that day when I was asked by one of my previous employers to visit London on 2 week notice.

I say, I am British Indian, because I have UK citizenship now.

Counter anecdote

My Grandfather was a noted astrologer. Very intelligent man, consulted by a lot of people. He cast his own horoscope and predicted that he would die at 40. So he settled his affairs at that time and waited. Couple of years lated, he gave up waiting. Died at around 80. He was a consultant astrologer (unpaid) till the end but used to joke about his own prediction.

Death is very hard to predict. Because, you get various "possbile" phases in life and one them will succeed. It really depends on experience. It is not easy to master Vedic Astrology. You have hundreds of combinations.

Can you tell me bit about your Grandfather? Were his predictions ever true?