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Vatican-sponsored Evolution Conference Snubs ID

"Some bits" are metaphorical. Indeed. Have they ever issued a definitive list of which bits are metaphorical and which bits are actually true? That would interesting. :D

Discovery Institute Miffed by Vatican Snub



So, the Vatican is essentially admitting that the Bible isn't really true?
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Do not confuse the Catholic position with that of fundy protestants. The latter ones are mainly those who think that each and every bit of the bible has to be true in any respect. However, while the Catholics still place a very level of importance on the bible, of course, they may well not cling to the historical or scientific validity of any one of the biblical texts.
 
Do not confuse the Catholic position with that of fundy protestants. The latter ones are mainly those who think that each and every bit of the bible has to be true in any respect. However, while the Catholics still place a very level of importance on the bible, of course, they may well not cling to the historical or scientific validity of any one of the biblical texts.

I attended Catholic school from kindergarten through high school and never saw a bible at school anyplace but in the church. Religion books that contained parts of the bible, but no bibles. Catholics know that it contains the key to the truth, so it shouldn't be read by lay people.
 
Catholics have long accepted <insert>perfected the art of spin - especially when it comes to incorporating irrefutable aspects of reality into their peculiar brand of woo. So, for them to conveniently ignore the obvious absurdities of their own, official version of Genesis and pretend that thay have always accepted that </insert> evolution is true <insert> is hardly surprising </insert>.

Fixed That For You :)

www.drbo.org/chapter/01001.htm: Douay-Rheims Bible, Book Of Genesis
 
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Catholics were from the very beginning saying that most of the Bible is a mystery that can't be understood by human minds, you need the priesthood to tell you what it really means, and reading it yourself would just confuse you and lead you to wrong conclusions. A few centuries ago, the Bible was actually on the index of forbidden books. I'm not kidding you.

And one of the earliest catholic saints was St Augustine Of Hippo, who wrote that only an idiot would take the Genesis literally. In fact, he made a whole book out of that. He got sanctified for his efforts.

Of course this created the situation where Vatican could invent any doctrine it wanted, and not care less about whether the Bible says so or says the exact opposite. The Purgatory or the wholesale-scale sale of indulgences are probably the most widely quoted examples of this.

The idea of taking the Bible literally is a fundamentally protestant position. In fact, that's how protestantism got started in the first place and that was its thrust: screw the Pope, if it's not in the Bible, it's just Bull ;)

Basically you can't paint all christians with the same brush. Especially if you go debunking it, it really helps to know what you debunk. Because trying to treat catholicism as biblical literalism isn't really going to get you anywere. Those guys don't believe in their own bible (or in its exact literal text) to start with.

Still illogical, yes, but it's a very different kind of illogical.

But to get back to the actual topic, the catholic church has coexisted pretty well with the Aristotelian "science" before, and in fact endorsed it. Then eventually, during the counter-reformation, it learned to live with the normal science too. The Jesuits for example are pretty much a science order sponsored by the Vatican. Those guys run universities and research labs. And, yes, teach evolution.

Thanks. Finally someone knowledgable about religion. Was interesting.
 
When did the catholic church issue a statement saying that the theory of evolution was wrong?
When? I dunno if there was ever an official statement ex Vatican, but the teachers at the catholic schools I went to (in the 60s and 70s) made it pretty clear that Adam 'n' Eve and their talking snake plus Noah and his ark were as good as 'gospel'
 
I don't care about what debate may/may not exist between "true christians". I'm happy that another group is calling DI out for what it is, non-science.

Ditto. Watching the Disco Institute froth & fume about this snub is just too much fun :D
 

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