Utah Official Falsely Claims Student is Transgender

[kookbreaker]

Cline is now a further refugee from his dangerous legacy.

Will no one cry for the psychotic, unhinged reactionary who only wants to endanger the lives of minors?

 

[JayUtah]

People idolize Obama, but he created this mess. Cline has made a singular and catastrophic error, but...

No, no "buts." This was no mere error. Cline had ample prior warning of what her colleagues, community, and superiors considered her intolerable behavior, including prior examples of endangering other named individuals on no better basis than speculation and innuendo. Her actions are by no means "singular," but rather part of a well-documented three-year pattern of abuse and endangerment.

...could not in 100 lifetimes destroy the people Obama has.

No, Cline and her followers are not the pitiable victims of someone else's policy decisions.

 

[bruto]

Even if one were right about how harmful Obama's policies were, and even if by some stretch of the imagination one could equate Cline and her position with Obama and his, I would submit that the tit for tat, he-was-naughty-too kind of comparison is a lousy argument for justifying anything, a feud-inducing fallacy that most of our mommies taught us was wrong very long ago; one that someone purporting to possess a modicum of intelligence ought rightly to avoid.

Not that I'm particularly surprised when such a thing occurs, but I think the quality of arguments is fatally diminished when it does.

 

[PitPat]

Utah official falsely suggests teen student is transgender, now faces calls to resign
https://abcnews.go.com/US/utah-school-board-official-falsely-suggested-teen-girl/story?id=107100300


She claimed, “We live in strange times when it is normal to pause and wonder if people are what they say they are because of the push to normalize transgenderism in our society,” Cline said on Facebook."

Why doesn't she just say, "I'm an *******" instead?

Ranb

Disregarding the transgender youth sports issue, this is where the rubber meets the road. Posting a picture of a minor on social media and implying that they don't look feminine enough to her (again, from a school board member). She deserves all the scorn, ridicule and admonishment she receives.

 

[Samson]

Disregarding the transgender youth sports issue, this is where the rubber meets the road. Posting a picture of a minor on social media and implying that they don't look feminine enough to her (again, from a school board member). She deserves all the scorn, ridicule and admonishment she receives.

Unquestionably true as a standalone act.

No Claudine Gay needed to unpack.

 

[JayUtah]

Unquestionably true as a standalone act.

Natalie Cline's behavior is not just a "standalone attack." It's the latest in several of the same kind of attack, documented in official reprimands, investigations, and letters of censure. No about of irrelevant boo-hooing changes that.

 

[bruto]

I think ideological purists of all persuasions share far more attributes than any would care to admit. The real world and the real people who inhabit it tend to disrupt every manifesto.

 

[Samson]

Why are you carrying water for this psychopath?

I take it Natalie Cline is considered a sociopath by some.

 

[Samson]

Natalie Cline's behavior is not just a "standalone attack." It's the latest in several of the same kind of attack, documented in official reprimands, investigations, and letters of censure. No about of irrelevant boo-hooing changes that.

Natalie Cline sees God as a fact and evolution as a theory. She has that the wrong way round, so this is against science, thus she is dangerous as an educator.
On her wish to keep men out of women's sport, most people on the planet are in full agreement.

By the way I said standalone act, though roughly the same thing.

 

[JayUtah]

I take it Natalie Cline is considered a sociopath by some.

By the way I said standalone act, though roughly the same thing.

What do you actually know of Natalie Cline's tenure as a member of the Utah school board?

 

[Shalamar]

Natalie Cline sees God as a fact and evolution as a theory. She has that the wrong way round, so this is against science, thus she is dangerous as an educator.
On her wish to keep men out of women's sport, most people on the planet are in full agreement.

By the way I said standalone act, though roughly the same thing.

Too bad she seems to want to keep women out of women's sport. Or at least women who don't fit in what women should be like. And you seem to agree with her.

 

[Samson]

Too bad she seems to want to keep women out of women's sport. Or at least women who don't fit in what women should be like. And you seem to agree with her.

Noone will be fooled by that misrepresentation of the thread. You are not fooled either, you are being mischievous.

 

[Samson]

What do you actually know of Natalie Cline's tenure as a member of the Utah school board?

What I could find in nonpaywalled articles.
Her type is predictable, frankly, god obstructs all proper debate in most of the continent.
I agree with her stand on medicating youth, and men in women's sport.
Her idiocy on science and evolution is dangerous but far too commonplace.
Evolutionary biology is a prerequisite to making sense of the human condition, so she is an epic fail as an educator.

That is my summary.

 

[Shalamar]

Noone will be fooled by that misrepresentation of the thread. You are not fooled either, you are being mischievous.

My Bad. I forgot to mention your unhinged conspiracy theories.

 

[Worm]

I think even a worm is capable of better.

I'd like to think so.

 

[JayUtah]

What I could find in nonpaywalled articles.

I didn't ask what limited your ability to find out the facts. I asked what facts you know.

Her type is...

The issue is not that she is a "type." The issue is that as an individual she has committed truly reprehensible acts, only one of which you seem to know about.

That is my summary.

Your summary contains nothing of substance. Do you know of her other attempts to endanger others? Do you know of the censures from her otherwise like-minded colleages?

 

[Samson]

My Bad. I forgot to mention your unhinged conspiracy theories.

Could you cite them please?

 

[Shalamar]

Could you cite them please?

That this is all the fault of Obama and Obama Care, as well as something ridiculous regarding the sterilization of homosexuals. Take them to the CT section.

 

[bruto]

Natalie Cline sees God as a fact and evolution as a theory. She has that the wrong way round, so this is against science, thus she is dangerous as an educator.
On her wish to keep men out of women's sport, most people on the planet are in full agreement.

By the way I said standalone act, though roughly the same thing.

So, let us stipulate, just for the sake of argument, that most people on the planet are in agreement about the issue of trans athletes in women's sport. This is a stipulation only, because though it's been brought up here as relevant, I do not think it should be.

It keeps getting back to the same issue: SO WHAT? Her belief, right or wrong, though it may explain her bad behavior, is irrelevant to judging it. Saying her egregiously unacceptable behavior is a byproduct of what others have done edges dangerously close to the assertion that we must judge our actions and ideas not on what is right but on the harm the worst among us can inflict.

Her faith is irrelevant. I don't care whether or not she has the ear of Jesus Christ or the blood of virgin martyrs flows through her veins. Every detail of her action here was wrong. She is proven unsuited, incompetent and harmful to society. And as others closer to the event have pointed out, this was not a standalone act, but a standout act among many. If she had any decency she'd resign, but that being unlikely, she should be impeached. Not for her beliefs, which she shares with many, but for her actions, pure and simple.

 

[kookbreaker]

I take it Natalie Cline is considered a sociopath by some.

When you are so obsessed with an enemy you find then when I they aren’t there and then sic the goons on them. I think the term fits.