USA's government, not people, make it great

[Piggy]

So in conclusion...

The United States is a great nation because great people created a great system, and because regular Americans (some of whom are great) recognise its greatness and work to maintain it.

I would not argue against that.

 

[proxywar]

Hey, man, when the rapture comes, can I have your car?

I'm not a religious man, But i suppose when the government's brave new world comes they'll be more than happy to take my car and give it to you if you explain to them your financial situation is wrose off than mine.

camaro z28 ok with you?

 

[Piggy]

I'm not a religious man, But i suppose when the government's brave new world comes they'll be more than happy to take my car and give it to you if you explain to them your financial situation is wrose off than mine.

Six of one, half dozen of another. Everyone's got their apocalypse.

camaro z28 ok with you?

Oh, sure. Glory days, brother!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

...
ETA: In the words of a great american "the scariest thing you will ever here is "I'm from the governemnt and I am here to help you"".

Excuse me for calling you on this, but this is nothing but a BS slogan from a politician. It is all slogan and absolutely ludicrous as an actual statement of fact.

Reagan got a laugh and mindless agreement. It's a Libertarian fantasy that the government can't do anything right and the private sector is always better. Nonsense. Do you want a private police force? A private fire department? Don't want the National Guard to help out after a disaster? That's what we got with Bush, no help after Katrina, and over 1,000 dead.

The government screws stuff up, so does the private sector. The government does a lot of things well, so does the private sector. It's mindless to believe in slogans like that one.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I do believe in the old saying "people are the same wherever you go"....

Unless you are in the tribal areas in the Afghanistan/Pakistan mountains or in the middle of warlord wars in Sierra Leone. Some people are nuts and aren't the same. For the most part, though, they probably are the same.

 

[proxywar]

Everyone's got their apocalypse.

I'll bet you do.

Glory days, brother

I shall call you, The Dude.

And on that note...

I don't drink or get high from weed
my head is clean, my anti-drug is speed
amphetamines: make me wake up in the street
I wear reflectors to bed cuz I run in my sleep
no need to debate it, my physician was appalled when
he needed a calculator to take my pulse with
he also said I should stay away from the cocaine
so I made a ten foot straw - it gave me nose pain

Later!

 

[billydkid]

Yes, you are right. The idea being that here (as I suspect it really is everywhere) the government is a reflection of the people. In a sense, that is true. Dubya is a reflection of the enduring idiocy of the American people. Supposedly we have a framework on which our government hangs which prevents the people and the people they select to represent them from ruining things altogether. But it has been clear that when hysteria strikes all of that can go out the window like sanity has easily gone out the window in a thousand other civilized societies.