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USA gearing up for the draft!

Richard G said:
I served my 4 years kicking the snot out of 3rd world dirt bags. If Uncle Sam calls, I'll do it again.

(Nice avatar American)
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Thanks, and thanks also for smacking up the 3rd world scuz.

I'll save you some time.. only bother reading his first 2 books, or possibly just the first one. Every novel from him is exactly the same.
 
(irony warning)

Well, just think how much improvement in the unemployment figures we can get if Bush gets to draft young males for his USA-2000 Crusades against the infidels in the middle east.

And like the last draft, where my little, poor steel town got up to number 200 in the draft lottery despite the high kid population, and at least some of the fancy parts of the big town next to me got to 80...

Right?

Or am I just way, way too cynical?

Will it work better for him than Nixon/Agnew?

I wonder, how much parallel between Cheyney and Spiro T?
 
Luke T. said:
Jon in london, it has been a requirement for every male over the age of 18 to register with the Selective Service for as long as I can remember.

With women in combat positions now, I wonder why women don't have to register...

Anyway, starting in 1983, I began getting nasty letters from the SS (SS, get it?) for not registering. These were mailed to me at my active duty military address. I am not joking.

I kept responding to them, even going so far as to send them notarized photo copies of my military ID.

Finally, in 1985, I got a really, really nasty threatening letter from them. I wrote back and told them I surrender. I told them they could come and arrest me, and I would come willingly. I told them to come to pier 11, US Naval Shipyard Philadelphia, on board the USS Forrestal (CV-59), right down to the compartment number of my shop, and haul me away. I give up, I said.

Never heard from them again.
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Makes you kinda wonder what sort of person they allow into the military that was handling your case, doesn't it! :)
 
Richard G said:
I served my 4 years kicking the snot out of 3rd world dirt bags. If Uncle Sam calls, I'll do it again.
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What a GREAT diplomat and advertisement YOU would have been for your country. :rolleyes:
 
rikzilla said:
Well,

s for me, I've done my time in Uncle Sugar's army, so I'm not draftable. I have two daughters though, one is a junior in high school. Which makes me wonder; if one of the great achievements of the women's movement is equality....does this mean my daughter could end up drafted someday?

If not,...I wonder why not...or if the NOW will stand up and bitch that we should draft women too.

Somehow I just can't see the NOW demanding equal rights to fight a war they have come out strongly against. But it does pose an interesting moral and political question...eh?

-z
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I'd suggest that these issues are not mutually exclusive. The use of women in the front line as a policy would seem to have no real bearing as to where that front line fighting actually was. At least, for consistency (and I suppose the military doesn't HAVE to be consistent...).
 
You still have a military draft? We ended that with Vietnam. Is it too communistic liberalistic to get rid of the draft mechanism? The US can invade countries at will, support military ventures by proxy as it pleases, but it can't get rid of the draft. For what reason?
 
a_unique_person said:
You still have a military draft? We ended that with Vietnam. Is it too communistic liberalistic to get rid of the draft mechanism? The US can invade countries at will, support military ventures by proxy as it pleases, but it can't get rid of the draft. For what reason?
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There's no draft, you have to register in case Congress decides to implement a draft (which there is absolutely no consideration of at the moment). It's a relic of the Cold War, I believe the law was passed in Reagan's first term.

The Pentagon would rather have motivated volunteers than forced conscripts also. Right now, the military is limited by it's budget, not by a lack of volunteers.

I'm too old to be drafted anyway.
 
It is the mechanism for a draft. Even registering for such system is incredible. People jump up and down when I say that I think compulsory voting is a good thing, due to the civil liberties implications, but I have never heard a word about having to register for a draft, even if it isn't happening. This to me is a much bigger infringement of civil liberties.

Compulsory voting only means I have to turn up, and I can just write "Sod Off'. Registering for a draft is a very important step in the whole compulsory service process.
 
I'm going to agree with a_unique_person that ANY kind of draft is a gross infringement of civil liberties.

I don't care if a million Islamic Extremist land off the coast of California; It's wrong for the government to force somebody to do something against their will.

I have noting against voluntary service, but:

If the government can't find enough people to voluntarily kill and risk being killed in a war in some far off place, then I say to bad for the government.

If the government can't find enough people to voluntarily defend their country, then I say that country probably isn't worth defending.
 
I'm going to agree with a_unique_person that ANY kind of draft is a gross infringement of civil liberties.
I don't care if a million Islamic Extremist land off the coast of California; It's wrong for the government to force somebody to do something against their will.
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If a foreign invasion succeeds, and there are too many apethetic individuals such as yourtself who do not volunteer, there wont BE any civil rights. You'll be able to file a grievance about doing something against your will with the prevailant foreign invaders, who will promptly have you shot.

So many brain dead, no, idiotic individuals who take their freedom for granted, and then belittle those who selflessly sacrifice to provide it.
 
Luke T. said:
Anyway, starting in 1983, I began getting nasty letters from the SS (SS, get it?) for not registering. These were mailed to me at my active duty military address. I am not joking.
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I got three of these on the same day. They all came to the boat and were even addressed to me by with my rank. They went from "Hey, did you forget..." to "Stay where you are, the FBI is coming right now." The three had been mailed on differant days, but I had foolishly spent a few months on a sub in the North Atlantic and my mail service was a bit...off. :p My solution wasn't as creative as yours, though. I had the sub's Yeoman write a Statement of Service (an official letter signed by the Commanding Officer saying how long I had been in and how much longer my contract had) and they stopped sending them.
 
Agammamon said:
Of course the strange thing is, how is the SS going to find you. Most peope will have moved shortly after registering anyway (to college or just out to their own apartment). I suppose they could try to get your current address from tax returns, but if they can do that why would you need to register anyway?
Given that SS is an obviously discriminatory government program I don't think it wold survive a court challenge in it's current form.
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Nitpick. Selective Service is the SSS.

But the SS will help the SSS find you. That's Social Security.
 
WildCat said:

There's no draft, you have to register in case Congress decides to implement a draft (which there is absolutely no consideration of at the moment). It's a relic of the Cold War, I believe the law was passed in Reagan's first term.
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Perhaps there was some minor modification during Reagan's term, but something like the current system was in place since the end of the Viet Nam war.
 
Richard G said:


If a foreign invasion succeeds, and there are too many apethetic individuals such as yourtself who do not volunteer, there wont BE any civil rights. You'll be able to file a grievance about doing something against your will with the prevailant foreign invaders, who will promptly have you shot.

So many brain dead, no, idiotic individuals who take their freedom for granted, and then belittle those who selflessly sacrifice to provide it.
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It doesn't take that long to set up a draft, if it is really needed. That is, an invasion is imminent and no-one seems to care. However, as ??? pointed out, if you really don't care that much about your country, maybe you don't deserve it. The draft, however, is more often used to fight wars that are unpopular and would not have enough people fighting them if they were not forced to go. WWI is a good case in point. Without a draft, I doubt it would have happened.
 
First of all, calling me apathetic is a completely baseless assertion. You don't know me. I haven't posted enough on this board for you to draw any such conclusion.

Richard G said:
If a foreign invasion succeeds, and there are too many apethetic individuals such as yourtself who do not volunteer, there wont BE any civil rights.
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Thats not likely to ever happen. If a government does a decent job then it shouldn't have any problem finding enough people to defend it. If the government is so incompetent or oppressive that it cant muster its own people to defend it, then that government doesn't deserve to exist (Iraq is a perfect example)
 
a_unique_person said:


Not offensive, I just don't know how you did the crucifix.
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Hold down Alt while on the Number pad type 0134, then release Alt

Or you could just copy and paste.
 
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