US troops in Iraq using steroids.

[epepke]

Of course, what many persons don't understand is that mostly they are short-term gains,

I am not convinced of this. Ah-nold kept his bulk for quite a while after stopping steroid use. Of course, the biceps implants didn't hurt.

For instance, gynecomastia (bitch tits) is a very real risk and is well-documented.

Hey! I have better tits than most women I know. Of course, mine came naturally.

 

[HarryKeogh]

Re: Re: Re: US troops in Iraq using steroids.

Now why the heck would you ask for anecdotal evidence then restrict anecdotal evidence from the responses? Is this another one of those subtle dessicated humor things?

You're right. I couldn't have phrased my questions more poorly if I tried.



Now here's a link to a story that ran on HBO's real sports. It's about 13 minutes long

http://rapidshare.de/files/2572196/HBO_Steroids.wmv.html

here are some important points made in the story...

how many long term scientific studies definitively show a link between death or serious health risk with steroids in men? zero

Studies that gave highest doses to men reported in the NEJM, only negative side effects...acne and breast tenderness

National Institutes of Health..."the incidence of life threatening effects appears to be low"

the AMA, dept. of health and human services and the DEA all opposed classification of steroids as schedule 3 controlled substances but congress did it anyway.

Lyle Alzado was made the poster boy for steroid abuse even though Alzado's doctor said there was no known link to his death and his use of steroids.



It's an interesting story (though heavy on personal opinions) that's worth a look.

 

[AmateurScientist]

Re: Re: Re: Re: US troops in Iraq using steroids.

Lyle Alzado was made the poster boy for steroid abuse even though Alzado's doctor said there was no known link to his death and his use of steroids.

If I remember correctly, it was Alzado himself who very publicly and almost tearfully made the link and pleaded with young athletes not to touch steroids. It was reminiscent of Yul Brenner's videotaped message about smoking and his lung cancer.

I can't get the link to work, so I don't know if the story contains Alzado's message and I haven't Googled it.

AS

 

[HarryKeogh]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US troops in Iraq using steroids.

If I remember correctly, it was Alzado himself who very publicly and almost tearfully made the link and pleaded with young athletes not to touch steroids. It was reminiscent of Yul Brenner's videotaped message about smoking and his lung cancer.

I can't get the link to work, so I don't know if the story contains Alzado's message and I haven't Googled it.

AS

AS...yes, it does have footage of Alzado and the video mentions how he himself claimed that steroids gave him cancer. But his doctor and the research out there says it most likely didn't.

 

[AmateurScientist]

Thanks, Harry. Yeah, I know the research and his doctor do not indicate that Alzado's death from brain cancer had anything to do with his years of steroid use. I didn't mean to imply that he was right, only that he made himself the poster boy.

AS

ETA: BTW, it is my cousin who claims a causal link between his own cancer and his steroid use. His doctors never told him that was the case. I've been skeptical of his claim ever since he made it.