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Upgrade review. Vista to XP :D

I'm not so sure that Vista will eventually be adopted to the same extend that XP has been. It could follow the steps of Millennium. A lot of people didn't see the need to migrate from 98 to Me. The question is, what important thing will Vista bring to the computing life of the average user so that upgrading becomes enticing ?
 
Oh yeah, Halo 2 for PC... Man, what a joke. It runs slow like hell, but at least it's ugly. ;) Compare it with Half-Life 2 and you'll see what I mean. Both are 3 years old. I can play HL2 at 1680x1050 with everything but AA set to high, but couldn't even play Halo 2 at 800x600 with everything set to low.

Oh, did I mention it's ugly?
 
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I got my IT department to install a dual boot on my laptop, so I have XP.

XP runs much faster on the laptop, doesn't take 5 minutes to start up, doesn't eat the battery as fast and it actually works with the peripherals that I have hooked up.

Vista is bad, so bad, I won't even bootleg it.
 
I had to replace a laptop and the new one came with VHP.
Nothing about that laptop convinces me to upgrade my desktop to Vista.
Despite having a dual core processor and 4 times the RAM (2GB over 512MB), the new machine takes longer to boot and is slower in every application than my older laptop.

I tried to regrade to an OEM XP, but encountered many problems and appear to be stuck with Vista. After seven months, I like it less than when I got it.

The search function and the task scheduler are improvements over XP. So far I have found everything else to be a step back.
 
If thinking of upgrade to Vista, I urge everyone to try Ubuntu at least once in their life.
It's free, incredibly powerful, handles plug and play and autodetect some would say better than Windows, and you can try it without even installing it.
Just run it from CD.

The best part perhaps is the fact that it runs rather fast on lower end systems.

Enjoy.

That's all very well but not so great if you want to run certain apps like Cubase or Itunes etc. I didn't find it handled PnP as well as Windows at all.
 
Ubuntu is still not as user-friendly as Windows or Mac OS X. An average user should never have to touch the command line. I don't want to learn Unix just to install something.
 
That's all very well but not so great if you want to run certain apps like Cubase or Itunes etc. I didn't find it handled PnP as well as Windows at all.

I would submit to you that the issue in this case is not the operating system, but rather the application design.

I don't want to learn Unix just to install something.

And herein lies the root problem.
:D
 
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That's all very well but not so great if you want to run certain apps like Cubase or Itunes etc. I didn't find it handled PnP as well as Windows at all.

Wow... cubase....that is some hardcore sh--.

I have to believe that anyone using cubase seriously could definitely benefit from a 64bit system.
 
I don't get all this bellyaching about Vista. I've had home basic for about 8 months now on my laptop and never had a problem with it, while my parents XP home computer gets shipped off every 3 months for repairs. My only complaint is that high end games run a bit slow on my system, but that's because of the 512 meg of ram, not the vista
 
Vista on my laptop is fine but the disk spools up every 5 seconds or so for about a second. It's a Toshiba laptop and a bunch of Microsoft guys I work with have experienced the same problems. They're having faster disks installed to address the issue.

The only other problems I've encountered are down to the fact that I'm an old codger who doesn't appreciate change of any kind at any time
 
I just went back to XP from Vista for the exact same reason, except that my machine has 4 GB in it.
It *is* a Vista issue.

Yes, it is, but in my case it's more to do with the RAM than the Vista. Besides, On 95% of the games I play I don't have a problem.
 
What really bugs me is that my HP laptop has a really cool program with a remote called QuickPlay. Try as I might, HP won't send me the XP version of it that I can load on my now dual boot laptop (vista/XP).

I would really like to use that in XP, just like it was used on HP machines before Vista came around.

Vista really is a terrible system, I hope to never use it again.
 
So let's wait six years and continue with XP, or in my case 2000.



Why?

MS has produced some good and bad products, are you saying that the only way to make money is to produce bad products?
No, just mediocre products.
Examples can be seen in automobiles, which, in the "good" old days, relied on "annual updates" to keep in business - but got wiped out by the introduction of good old US quality principles being imported by Japan.
Many years ago, a friend and I "discovered" a basic principle of purchasing anything: There are two viable strategies and one less viable. The viable ones are: buy cheap and replace often; or buy quality and keep it. The less viable is to buy mediocre; it will not last, as will the quality product, and costs more than the cheap one. Unfortunately, it is often difficult to find quality products, regardless of cost. And there is poorly-made junk with big price tags, sold to those who believe that price=quality.
Back to the subject at hand: when everyone who can use one has a computer, the only sales are going to be for 1. replacement; and 2. added features. With an OS, which never "wears out" in the mechanical sense, the "added features" provides the only incentive for customers to buy, and the only route for the manufacturer to generate sales. Clearly, there can be the appearance of an economic incentive to market an adequate system, then sell upgrades with additional features, as opposed to just selling one with the features in the first place.
That being said, Microsoft has not followed this practice closely; XP in it's original form would not be acceptable to the vast majority of present users; the free features of SP1 and SP2 did not generate any revenue as such, and were not sold as upgrades. They could have been. Maybe MSFT is not all evil.
Unlike other major revisions, however, the "great leap forward" of Vista is not evident enough, if present at all, to warrant buying it at this time, IMHO.
 
Vista on my laptop is fine but the disk spools up every 5 seconds or so for about a second. It's a Toshiba laptop and a bunch of Microsoft guys I work with have experienced the same problems. They're having faster disks installed to address the issue.

The only other problems I've encountered are down to the fact that I'm an old codger who doesn't appreciate change of any kind at any time


Don- Download "Autoruns.exe" from Sysinternals (now wholly M$ owned) and run it to see how much your Vista OS actually runs on startup. It's scary.

That said, the disk activity is probably indexing, which can be turned off.


It's also worth checking Task Scheduler to see what it is running. M$ use it to do routine disk checks and maintenance. You may be happy to keep these, but there may also be update reminders and other preinstalled junk in there that you can turn off.

ETA- We could get together and start a "Grumpy old codgers association" to fight change for the sake of change.
 
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