Understanding the Liberal Mindset

[theprestige]

You posted your opinion just like I did, and that doesn't prove a thing.

You ignored my opinion and invented your own narrative. Is that your idea of the liberal mindset? Do you not think maybe you should give some space to other liberals who might not share your mindset?

 

[AmyStrange]

You ignored my opinion and invented your own narrative. Is that your idea of the liberal mindset? Do you not think maybe you should give some space to other liberals who might not share your mindset?

Nope. Wrong again. I'm more than happy to listen to other opinions and evaluate them with REAL critical-thinking skills, unlike some people

 

[theprestige]

I'm more than happy to listen to other opinions and evaluate them with REAL critical-thinking skills,

Doubt.

unlike some people

Have the courage of your convictions. Name names. Or is it the liberal mindset to make vague and unsupported insinuations, when you have no rational arguments?

 

[AmyStrange]

Doubt.


Have the courage of your convictions. Name names. Or is it the liberal mindset to make vague and unsupported insinuations, when you have no rational arguments?

I don't like to insult people except for the fat clown and his maga weirdoes.

 

[theprestige]

I don't like to insult people except for the fat clown and his maga weirdoes.

Excuses, excuses. Is this supposed to be yet another demonstration of the liberal mindset?

 

[AmyStrange]

Excuses, excuses. Is this supposed to be yet another demonstration of the liberal mindset?

I'm finding the second season of the Trump's Damn Stupid sit-com funny as hell (but I do feel sorry for those suffering unless they voted for him), and what makes it even funnier are the stupid things his maga weirdo worshippers say, but that's just my opinion.

Your mileage may vary of course

 

[AmyStrange]

Excuses, excuses. Is this supposed to be yet another demonstration of the liberal mindset?

The liberal mindset doesn't exist, unless you count their empathy, but once again, this is just my opinion, and your mileage may vary of course.

 

[theprestige]

I'm finding the second season of the Trump's Damn Stupid sit-com funny as hell (but I do feel sorry for those suffering unless they voted for him), and what makes it even funnier are the stupid things his maga weirdo worshippers say, but that's just my opinion.

Your mileage may vary of course.

Is this the liberal mindset?

 

[AmyStrange]

Is this the liberal mindset?

Nope, probably not, but I won't know for sure until I interview every liberal on the planet.

That might take a couple months but thank you for your opinion anyway.

 

[AmyStrange]

Is this the liberal mindset?

Well, I have to go and do something more important, but please, continue with your opinions.

I'll need a good laugh when I get back anyway.

 

[TragicMonkey]

If those felonies involved violence and threats of violence, why wait for thirty?

Why only if they were violent? Crime is crime. I don't think habitual career criminals ought to be free to commit more crimes. Of course a bleeding-heart liberal like yourself would excuse them.

 

[acbytesla]

So, what? I'm against judges who constantly release career criminals to terrorize the public. I don't care what Trump has to say about that. I do not adjust my viewpoints on what Trump has or has not said.

The United States has the highest incarceration rate in the Western World. And it is not even close. I bet you also don't like the cost of prisons either.

 

[dirtywick]

But I also know that irl I specifically keep getting accused of personally being hateful and dehumanizing towards politicians I don't like, which gets right up my nose because I'm literally the 'don't dehumanise anyone, ever, that's how you forget good people can do bad things' person. Maybe because I said something stronger than I remember? 'but you hate RFK.' 'I don't LIKE that RFK is in a position where he's going to get people killed. I don't hate RFK! He's just a guy! A guy with part of a putrefying whale on his car, sure, but still just a guy!' 'but why should you hate him?' 'I just said I don't hate him!' 'I dunno, sounds like you doth protest too much!'

i hate the guy, there’s going to be a lot of dead bodies, many of them kids, as a direct result of his decisions, and he’s a huge liar. are you allowed to hate someone like that? someone who lies and doesn’t care if his lies kill kids? i think so.

its just a cheap debate tactic to put you on the defensive anyway. definitely shouldn’t let them keep pulling that

 

[arthwollipot]

I'm not referring to incivility directed at people on this forum. I'm referring to the misanthropic, dehumanizing, merciless rhetoric referring to anyone and everyone suspected of voting the other way.

Which is something I exclusively see coming from the Right.

 

[arthwollipot]

Is a moral good, selectively applied, still moral? Is it still good?

What part of

I'm a liberal progressive because I believe in the universality of human rights regardless of nationality, religion, gender, sexuality, income, colour of skin, language, or politics.

did you fail to understand?

 

[Mojo]

I find it fascinating that the people that routinely label all conservatives as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., get upset when someone applies labels and stereotypes on them.

Calling out racism, sexism, or homophobia is not the same as labelling people.

 

[jt512]

Unfortunately, the problem you have on the right is a paucity of intellectual thinkers. The only one I can think of in recent years that might qualify is Alan Sked.

If you can only think of one conservative intellectual thinker, then that is a problem you have.

 

[Trausti]

Calling out racism, sexism, or homophobia is not the same as labelling people.

 

[angrysoba]

I think the two bits are inseparable. "For those inside the party everything, for those outside the party nothing" is not a moral good, no matter how compassionate you are towards the people inside the party.


How else would you formulate it? Again, I'm asking if arth's moral goods are still moral goods when they're applied conditionally, according to bigoted conditions. I don't think they are.

To be clear: I'm not talking about people who apply the principles of compassion and empathy imperfectly. Nobody's perfect. I'm talking about people who espouse a bigoted ideology (or who express one in practice), that picks and chooses who gets compassion and empathy based on bigoted criteria. Hitler's National Socialism was not a partly-good, partly-bad ideology. It was all bad, in its conditional application of goods.

Again, it is not the compassion that is the problem; it is the specific demonization of other groups that is. I don't know how much more clearly I can say it.

If I cared for my family to the complete exclusion of others, I don't think that the caring for the family is what's wrong. Similarly if I cared for people in my community, or in my country, or even of my own race, or only for those of my own sex, then it is not the caring for them that is wrong.

You can fault me for treating it as a zero-sum game in which I expressly refuse compassion to others on the basis that there just isn't enough to go round, but that's not because I am giving too much compassion to anyone.

 

[I Am The Scum]

I don't think spreading the cartoons of a neo-Nazi was the best look on this one.