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UK TV debate

Really cannot be bothered to read the whole thing but can I just check that there's no such thing as a manifesto these days? Manifestos apparently having been superceeded by debate, sorry, 'debate', for the population to be able to understand the nuanced differences between the parties.

Instead of the media desperately trying to find sound bites to represent political views they've managed to drag the issue of running the country down to the level of the lowest common denominator and reduced the whole of a political maneifsto to a petty, pointless, onscreen argument.
 
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Manifestoes do exist. Yesterday was the Labour launch, today Conservatives and Greens ( who pledge to abolish cages for rabbits if elected to power;)).
 
.......Greens ( who pledge to abolish cages for rabbits if elected to power;)).

They'll need to find some cages for all the flying pigs if they get elected.

Their economic policy is one of the funniest things I've heard all year. Thank goodness it is utterly irrelevant.
 
Surprising number of folks here have said they will vote for the green loons. The mirage of alternative party untested in government looms ever large.
 
Their main positive function is to split the left wing vote in the same way that Ukip are splitting the right wing vote. I mean, it wouldn't be fair unless both wings had their vote split, would it.

I'd love to ask them about inflation projections, with all that extra money they are proposing to borrow to fund wage increases for almost everyone in the country, and an extra million public servants. I'd also like to ask them how much they think a 50% hike in corporation tax would cost, as all larger corporations suddenly found Lichtenstein or Alderney a more attractive place to base their business, rather than London.........and whether they noticed that France tried a punitive tax rate for the very rich with, erm, mixed results.
 
I don't see it as particularly left. More a hodge podge. Massive state. Very authoritatian in some areas, quite libertarian in others. The Economist recently described UKIP as "Little Englanders", SNP as "Little Scotlanders" and Green as "A little crackers". Not bad.
 
Well, it may not be classic left, but I doubt many Tories will ever defect to join it. Big state tax-and-spend (and borrow-and-spend) and that is enough in my view to qualify as left.

I think the Economist were about spot on. It's all a pity really, because I support wholeheartedly the thrust of their environmental aims, if not necessarily the methods they propose.
 
Their main positive function is to split the left wing vote in the same way that Ukip are splitting the right wing vote. I mean, it wouldn't be fair unless both wings had their vote split, would it.

I'd love to ask them about inflation projections, with all that extra money they are proposing to borrow to fund wage increases for almost everyone in the country, and an extra million public servants. I'd also like to ask them how much they think a 50% hike in corporation tax would cost, as all larger corporations suddenly found Lichtenstein or Alderney a more attractive place to base their business, rather than London.........and whether they noticed that France tried a punitive tax rate for the very rich with, erm, mixed results.

As with UK, the Lib-Dems, and most other minor party or independent MPs in history (Martin Bell, anyone?), nobody expects them to form a government on their own, but it does mean that the MP for a specific area does more accurately represent the views of the electorate.
 

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