To an extent, as it always has done. However, there aren't going to be many media studies courses or drama schools, for instance, receiving such employer support.
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To an extent, as it always has done. However, there aren't going to be many media studies courses or drama schools, for instance, receiving such employer support.
The Daily Mail and the Daily Express are IMO the mouthpieces for the Conservative base. Read these disreputable rags if you want to understand the xenophobia, racism and homophobia which still lies at the heart of the Conservative Party.
Now maybe there is a new generation of socially liberal and racially colour blind Conservatives coming through inspired by David Cameron but then again Cameron may be as much of an exception to the Conservative Party as Blair seems to have been for the Labour Party.
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These will be the very courses - those and the '-ologies' and 'South Bank Uni'-type courses - which will be axed as eligible for a local authority grant.
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No, I was trying to whip up some good old moral outrage about the savage bigots who would dare to affront humanity by protesting the right of citizens to march down a street in a democratic society. I didn't manage it, hence you may have detected a certain lack of enthusiasm in my response.
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Whilst the DAILY MAIL is traditionally rabidly far right (remember its Hitler-supporting days in the 30's/40's) it doesn't really represent the Tory party, apart from campaigning at elections.
If you really want to know what the conservative government think, then read the FINANCIAL TIMES and you'll see the reality is; they cannot get enough of cheap, skilled foreign labour. They keep this quiet from the Rupert Murdoch SUN- reading hoi-polloi, though.
It's the newspaper read by the people who are the core of Conservative Party support.
Perhaps that's what the Conservative government think, but its circulation is tiny. The core Conservative support read, and are influenced by, the Daily Mail and Daily Express.
Heck, the recent insistence by David Davis that control over immigration is the primary Brexit concern makes me think that cheap, skilled foreign labour may be in short supply going forwards.
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Far right! LOL. The DM is populist, end of story, its only concern is drumming up interest and outrage to boost readership, it has nothing to do with the far right and indeed it could not possibly, because far right publications are not popular.
Surely they have the same right to wear white sheets and pointy hats in democratic USA, as they have to wear orange sashes in N Ireland. As we have seen in the Netherlands, Orange sashes and marching bands aren't a problem in and of themselves.
May is perhaps flirting with forces she doesn't fully understand. It need hardly be spelled out what the dangers of failure are, in the case of N Ireland.
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There you go, I'm glad you agree.
However poor May's judgement is, it is politics and entirely legal. If NI's response to democratic political process is to explode into terrorist violence then the whole power sharing deal was a sham anyway. Terrorists are responsible for terrorism and whilst May is unwise to join forces with a bevy of religious nutcases, any repercussions outside of the legal, democratic status quo are another matter entirely.
I understand but don't fully agree. If the uk was truly neutral between the two communities, then power sharing might have been genuine, and I think it was honestly pursued by previous uk administrations.
But coopting extremists from one of these communities has the effect, either of indicating that la perfide Albion was always lying about the peace process, or that at all events she has now decided to jettison it for the convenience of the beleaguered Tories.
"Terrorist violence" is never justified, but a withdrawal of cooperation by aggrieved parties in Stormont in the face of this new example of bad faith, is a significant danger. We can't expect agreements to be sustained by some parties and flouted by others at the same time.
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Secret under the table deals between the UK government and the DUP may be just about legal but certainly are not democratic.
No it exists to promote the worldview of Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth and his family, as it always has. And yes they are far right.
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Is that the same Harmsworth who is renowned for not interfering in his media, and with a reputation for not influencing editorial content?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...re-my-media-baron-of-the-year-hands-off-owner
You really do have a knack of making assertions that are diametrically opposed to fact.
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I think the only answer is LOL!
Seen any negative stories about the pornographicer recently?
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No, and let me remind you of your claim.
No [the DM] exists to promote the worldview of Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth and his family, as it always has.
This is completely untrue. Why can't you admit you were wrong?
Because it ain't true. I've read what he claims but the actual evidence doesn't point to it being the truth. So for instance after Desmond's trashy Express starting printing stories about the Viscount and what he and his family got up to for some reason articles about Desmond's social and private life stopped being published in the Mail and ones about the Viscount stopped appearing in the Express.
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It's not what he claims, it's what other people claim about him.
That's hardly evidence for your claim. In fact, it's not evidence for anything, just an anecdote.
Then we shall have to agree to disagree.
So is this a leftie and a rightie arguing about a paper or papers that neither of them read, and which probably aren't read by many or any at all here at the forum? All in contravention of Rule 11.
Just another day at the ISF.
Just another day at the ISF.
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The issue of mass circulation newspapers is germane with respect to the General Election hegemony. Fact is, the DAILY MAIL has one of the best (in the sense of being 'user friendly') online webpages and thus, its lead up stories about Jeremy romping with Diane (hello? 'A man and woman had sex in the 70's', is relevant current news?|) and all the nonsense about a bunch of screaming 'hate preachers' turning up at the same Palestine Issue rally as Corbyn yonks ago, is relevant inasmuch as how far did it influence voters?
I am pretty sure the MAIL and the SUN influenced Brexit.
But are they governed by a conservative readership? Statistics show that the working classes are now predominantly conservative voters (some 46%) so we see this reflected in the 'LEAVE' vote, as IMV the working classes are more likely to express anti-foreigner sentiment than the better-travelled middle classes, who will have met people of different cultures at university.
The key demographics between the parties now seems to be young (Labour) versus the older (Conservative).
Likewise this (young) group is more pro-Europe and free movement across the EU.
I am pretty sure the MAIL and the SUN influenced Brexit.
But are they governed by a conservative readership? Statistics show that the working classes are now predominantly conservative voters (some 46%) so we see this reflected in the 'LEAVE' vote, as IMV the working classes are more likely to express anti-foreigner sentiment than the better-travelled middle classes, who will have met people of different cultures at university.
The key demographics between the parties now seems to be young (Labour) versus the older (Conservative).
Likewise this (young) group is more pro-Europe and free movement across the EU.
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