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UFO video - Mexico11

Just a thought about the flare theory (which appeals to me). Why not test the theory (like we can do in science) and refly the same flight path, same altitude, and when the flares are active. If we get a similar effect, then problem solved.
 
Luci,

Which is a pretty flimsy hypothesis,to say the least.

LOL.. It gives a MUNDANE explanation.. boo hoo.. we can’t have that it MUST be flimsy !

The objects are clearly moving

Says who ??? Luci the expert on flying an aircraft and observing ground objects ??? Even moving in a car distorts the action of stationary objects. Your “moving” is PURELY in relation to the clouds etc.. How many times has the moon looked like it was “moving” ???

and the hypothesis doesn't account for all the uFO's on the video! ... aaprt from the supposition needed to hold much of the hypothesis together.

The hypothesis DID give possible explanation for the “unexplained” UFO’s. Did you read it all. An Hypothesis can ONLY give possible explanations anyway !

Please examine your way of looking at something with logic !

We crossed light years to get here..
We desperately conceal ourselves
What… do humans have INFRARED ????… DOH !
 
Ah, my oil flare theory is still causing trouble, I see... ;)

I also see that Captain Franz is still getting the sole credit for it too.... but I posted the theory here only a couple of days after the release of the footage to the media.

That was two weeks before he posted the same theory over at virtuallystrange.net, so priority belongs to me as far as I know. :)

Chalk this up as a victory for the JREF forum! :D

I actually sent Franz a friendly e-mail a couple of months ago with more information to help him out against critics as my own investigation was much further along... but he never replied.

Hmmm... well, I'd point out that he and other people still seem to just focus on the main group of infrared objects and ignore the radar objects, the other infrared objects and the airborne radar/infrared object.

Something else any explanation needs is to realize that the initial radar/infrared object is not only airborne but is also travelling at several hundred knots and so is therefore unlikely to be an oil-rig. ;)

It's an aircraft as it travels between two runways, and it draws the aircrews' attention to the area with the oil flares just as the aircraft goes off the radar. That's why the aircrew start thinking all these infrared sources that appear in a similar direction are also flying as they have no radar signals to tell them altitude but the aircrew think that's because these infrared objects are just out of radar range too.

Oil flare theory alone doesn't explain the whole incident, it's just for the main group of infrared objects and perhaps other, isolated infrared objects. The last couple of radar objects and perhaps also other infrared objects are not related to the main oil-field flares and remain unexplained.

I don't know if anyone other than myself and those who read my previous thread in this forum on this issue realize that. I haven't read anything yet to suggest anyone does.
 
plindboe said:
Lucianarchy, this sighting have already been discussed to death in this thread: http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40244

You ain't wrong. :D

It was an interesting incident in that there was a lot of reliable information from the footage like times, directions, and so on, and the witnesses' recall matched their flight transcript quite well.

The information for the end of the incident still remains a bit fuzzy, however, so that bit still needs some answers, like if the radar was picking up a helicopter and if are there oil-flares in a couple of other places.

There's still nothing there in this final part to suggest a UFO invasion fleet, though. ;)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: UFO video - Mexico11

Lucianarchy said:
That's clearly not what's happening on the video. Please, let's at least keep it rational and forget that ridiculous 'gas flares' speculation too. These are UFO. They have yet to be identified. And from their height, the objects are clearly flying.

Yes, would you nasty skeptics please stop trying to figure out what these lights might be.
It's clearly obvious that there is no possible explanation for them and the only rational thing to do is to accept that we will never, ever know what they are and we must stop trying.
Any attempts at speculation is foolish and even dangerous.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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