UFO Spotted in China! Airport Shut Down!

[Orphia Nay]

And this ain't just rumors...China's official newspapers are all abuzz today with reports about the Hangzhou airport being shut down after a UFO was spotted overhead. Lots of photos and videos, and its been confirmed that it was spotted on the airport's radar, too!

VISITORS FROM OUTER SPACE HAVE ARRIVED!! And, apparently, China's their number one tourism destination!

Or...perhaps not. The Chinese news reports also say that there is an unspecified "military connection" which will be explained later today.

But we all know the trooth! The aliens have arrived, and even at this moment are meeting with top Chinese gov't officials to plot the takeover of the world. Illuminati...beware!

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/07/02/2010070200544.html

China on Wednesday started a live fire exercise in the East China Sea ahead of a joint antisubmarine exercise by Korea and the U.S.

A Unit of the People's Liberation Army began the drill in waters to the east of Zhoushan and Taizhou in Zhejiang Province, the official China Daily quoted the Defense Ministry as announcing.

The exercise will last from midnight to 6 p.m. every day until Saturday.

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The South China Morning Post in Hong Kong on Wednesday said China could launch its first anti-ship ballistic missile, the so-called aircraft-carrier killer.
Jul. 02, 2010 09:17 KST

Hangzhou is ~200km west of Zhoushan.

 

[Astrophotographer]

Hangzhou is ~200km west of Zhoushan.

"carrier killer" missiles are missiles designed to destroy large vessels by packing a lot of explosives in the warhead. They are missiles and not rockets that can be seen for hundreds of miles. It would be a pretty bad missile that would put on a light show for everyone to see. Avoiding detection (radar/visual) is the trademark of an anti-ship missile. The USN has a very large screen, which includes aircraft that could shoot such a missile down if they saw it coming.

The former Soviet Union had a big monster "carrier killer" missile and it flew low just above the surface of the water to avoid radar detection. Some of their air launched versions did not fly so low but were very fast to avoid interception. None of these had much of a visual fingerprint where they could be seen for hundreds of miles (for that matter tens of miles). The USN developed the Phoenix missile (which had a range of something like 50 miles) to intercept such "carrier killers" and their aircraft.

 

[notsure]

And this ain't just rumors...China's official newspapers are all abuzz today with reports about the Hangzhou airport being shut down after a UFO was spotted overhead. Lots of photos and videos, and its been confirmed that it was spotted on the airport's radar, too!

VISITORS FROM OUTER SPACE HAVE ARRIVED!! And, apparently, China's their number one tourism destination!

Or...perhaps not. The Chinese news reports also say that there is an unspecified "military connection" which will be explained later today.

But we all know the trooth! The aliens have arrived, and even at this moment are meeting with top Chinese gov't officials to plot the takeover of the world. Illuminati...beware!

Maybe the Chinese government was afraid of potential attacks from Taiwan? The relationship between these two parts of China has improved significantly in the recent history, but did Taiwan purchase military weapons from US recently? The tension is still there.

 

[catsmate]

"carrier killer" missiles are missiles designed to destroy large vessels by packing a lot of explosives in the warhead. They are missiles and not rockets that can be seen for hundreds of miles. It would be a pretty bad missile that would put on a light show for everyone to see. Avoiding detection (radar/visual) is the trademark of an anti-ship missile. The USN has a very large screen, which includes aircraft that could shoot such a missile down if they saw it coming.

The former Soviet Union had a big monster "carrier killer" missile and it flew low just above the surface of the water to avoid radar detection. Some of their air launched versions did not fly so low but were very fast to avoid interception. None of these had much of a visual fingerprint where they could be seen for hundreds of miles (for that matter tens of miles). The USN developed the Phoenix missile (which had a range of something like 50 miles) to intercept such "carrier killers" and their aircraft.

Yep. The big anti-ship missiles, like the Soviet SS-N-19/P-700 family fly close to the water and are much more difficult to detect than something dropping down out of a mostly empty sky. Additionally ballistic missiles require more energy (fuel) to launch them to high altitudes. The P-700 is huge by anti-ship missile standards; over 7 tonnes at launch and 750kg of HEx behind a penetrator. Compare Harpoon; ~800kg launch weight and a 229kg warhead.
Phoenix (AIM-54) was an air launched missile designed to intercept aircraft and cruise-type missiles; it had an operational range of ~160km, indeed had capability beyond 200km. It is now out of service, though Iran may still have a few operational missiles, and never scored a confirmed kill. Only three are known to have been fired in anger by the USN.

 

[Astrophotographer]

Yep. The big anti-ship missiles, like the Soviet SS-N-19/P-700 family fly close to the water and are much more difficult to detect than something dropping down out of a mostly empty sky. Additionally ballistic missiles require more energy (fuel) to launch them to high altitudes. The P-700 is huge by anti-ship missile standards; over 7 tonnes at launch and 750kg of HEx behind a penetrator. Compare Harpoon; ~800kg launch weight and a 229kg warhead.
Phoenix (AIM-54) was an air launched missile designed to intercept aircraft and cruise-type missiles; it had an operational range of ~160km, indeed had capability beyond 200km. It is now out of service, though Iran may still have a few operational missiles, and never scored a confirmed kill. Only three are known to have been fired in anger by the USN.

I recall most of this from my years in the USN. THe missile I remember was the "Kitchen" missile they used to carry on backfire bombers. I was subs so I really was not overly familiar with this and just what I remember reading. I also don't recall that much about the F-14's and Phoenix capabilities. I knew it could be fired from a long range and the main design was to intercept aircraft and cruise missiles heading towards the battle group.

We used the Harpoons and Tomahawk anti-ship missiles (TASM) for a while. However, my last sub just carried torpedos. What I recall, even the TASM's were pretty small (although those were in VLS tubes). They were nothing like the huge beasts the Soviets used to launch.

In any case, I doubt the UFO was produced by a test of some anti-ship missile being tested a couple of hundred miles away. Thanks for the information.

 

[Orphia Nay]

In any case, I doubt the UFO was produced by a test of some anti-ship missile being tested a couple of hundred miles away. Thanks for the information.

It was 200 km away, not 200 miles, and furthermore, that is a fraction of their range:

U.S. government sources have stated consistently that Beijing is developing an ASBM [anti-ship ballistic missile] based on a variant of the land-based DF-21/CSS-5 mediumrange ballistic missile (MRBM). The DF-21’s 1,500-kilometer-plus range could hold ships at risk in a large maritime area, far beyond Taiwan and into the western Pacific.¹

http://andrewserickson.files.wordpr...son-yang_china-asbm_nwcr_2009-autumn-aspx.pdf

They fly up high and down low:

More about the carrier-killer missile:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/03/china-testing-ballistic-missile-carrier-killer/

 

[Astrophotographer]

It was 200 km away, not 200 miles, and furthermore, that is a fraction of their range

I am not talking about the range of the missile but the area of visibility. Yes, you did say km and not miles but the distance of 200km is still significant. Can the missile be seen from 200km away? For a missile designed to avoid defense systems of an aircraft carrier battle group, it would have to be somewhat stealthy and not visible from 200KM away, which is my point.

Additionally, the original source in your article stated the live fire exercise was only going to happen until Saturday (which was July 4th) and the event happened on July 7th. IF the missile was a type that can be seen from 200km away, it probably would have been visible from Taiwan, Korea, and any civilian aircraft flying in the area. I am unaware of any such reports.

 

[Orphia Nay]

I am not talking about the range of the missile but the area of visibility. Yes, you did say km and not miles but the distance of 200km is still significant. Can the missile be seen from 200km away? For a missile designed to avoid defense systems of an aircraft carrier battle group, it would have to be somewhat stealthy and not visible from 200KM away, which is my point.

Couldn't it have been launched near the airport it was seen above in the report in the OP? It could have flown over the airport on the way to the China Sea.

Additionally, the original source in your article stated the live fire exercise was only going to happen until Saturday (which was July 4th) and the event happened on July 7th. IF the missile was a type that can be seen from 200km away, it probably would have been visible from Taiwan, Korea, and any civilian aircraft flying in the area. I am unaware of any such reports.

The Saturday was July 3rd, and the article I posted was posted on the evening of the Friday, the day before that. It reads as though the exercise will be going for a week, until Saturday 10th.

 

[Astrophotographer]

Couldn't it have been launched near the airport it was seen above in the report in the OP? It could have flown over the airport on the way to the China Sea.

Could have, would have, should have? I don't think it would be ideal for that. If they had launched such a missile, one would think it would have been announced and noticed by others than just somebody at the airport.

The operating area was in the yellow sea for their exercises. One would think the launch site for a missile would have been from someplace secret (to hide any failures and avoid alerting potential launch by diverting air traffic) and the recovery area be in the yellow sea (assuming they would have launched a payload of some kind).

The Saturday was July 3rd, and the article I posted was posted on the evening of the Friday, the day before that. It reads as though the exercise will be going for a week, until Saturday 10th.

That is what I get for looking at my desktop astronomy calendar where Sunday is the last day on the row. My error.

Your link was for:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/07/02/2010070200544.html

This is what you posted and it was dated July 2nd. It stated the exercises had started on Wednesday (meaning it had already started). It already stated that the exercises began already. If it had meant the exercise would start on the 7th, they would have stated that it would be starting/beginning exercises on Wednesday the 7th. These kinds of exercises usually aren't announced prior to beginning but after in order to preserve any security associated with them. The USN submarines tend to loiter around these kinds of exercises monitoring them to observe their tests (Personal experience). If you pre-alert, they can position themselves better.