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UFO over O'Hare

All the witnesses said the object was dark gray and well defined in the overcast skies. They said the craft, estimated by different accounts to be 6 feet to 24 feet in diameter, did not display any lights.

Some said it looked like a rotating Frisbee, while others said it did not appear to be spinning. All agreed the object made no noise and it was at a fixed position in the sky, just below the 1,900-foot cloud deck, until shooting off into the clouds.
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Where do I learn how to estimate the diameter of a disk at 1,900 feet?

~~ Paul
 
"To fly 7 million light years to O'Hare and then have to turn around and go home because your gate was occupied is simply unacceptable," said O'Hare controller and union official Craig Burzych.
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My favorite quote from the article. Many thanks to Mr. Burzych for summing up the controversy!
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
Where do I learn how to estimate the diameter of a disk at 1,900 feet?

~~ Paul
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If I were you, I'd start somewhere other than the group of people that estimated it with differences from a six foot diameter to a twenty-four foot diameter...
 
I love this one:

"I tend to be scientific by nature, and I don't understand why aliens would hover over a busy airport," said a United mechanic who was in the cockpit of a Boeing 777 that he was taxiing to a maintenance hangar when he observed the metallic-looking object above Gate C17.

"But I know that what I saw and what a lot of other people saw stood out very clearly, and it definitely was not an [Earth] aircraft," the mechanic said.
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Oh yeah, reeeeeally scientific...

As are most mechanics.
 
In the days of camera phones, digital camers and camcorders, its really amazing no one has even a grainy photo of it, especially at an airport! Your would figure that there are security cameras looking at the airfield as well as sky in the dirction of takeoffs and landings too!
 
"One United employee appeared emotionally shaken by the sighting and "experienced some religious issues" over it, one co-worker said."

Because if there's a God, how could he just sit back and allow something as horrible as a grey disc sitting in the sky to happen? Doesn't make sense.

Shouldn't that bolster a religious viewpoint, that crazy stuff can just be poofed into existence without needing any explanation? I would've thought that seeing a UFO would comfort a believer.
 
latent aaaack said:
"One United employee appeared emotionally shaken by the sighting and "experienced some religious issues" over it, one co-worker said."

Because if there's a God, how could he just sit back and allow something as horrible as a grey disc sitting in the sky to happen? Doesn't make sense.

Shouldn't that bolster a religious viewpoint, that crazy stuff can just be poofed into existence without needing any explanation? I would've thought that seeing a UFO would comfort a believer.
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Never been afraid of the unknown?
 
Uh oh! Move it to the Conspiracy Boards! The gubmint is trying to cover it up.

Federal agency backtracks

Like United, the FAA originally told the Tribune that it had no information on the alleged UFO sighting. But the federal agency quickly reversed its position after the newspaper filed a Freedom of Information Act request.
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latent aaaack said:
Shouldn't that bolster a religious viewpoint, that crazy stuff can just be poofed into existence without needing any explanation? I would've thought that seeing a UFO would comfort a believer.
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The distinction is not one that most skeptics accept:

Miracles have a certain "poofiness" about them - they are things that happen without reason, and always attributed to faith.

UFOs, if they do exist, are based on technology and science that's advanced further than our own. There is no "poof" to them.


Most often, "If they do exist," is not even considered in skeptical forums.
 
American said:
The distinction is not one that most skeptics accept:

Miracles have a certain "poofiness" about them - they are things that happen without reason, and always attributed to faith.

UFOs, if they do exist, are based on technology and science that's advanced further than our own. There is no "poof" to them.


Most often, "If they do exist," is not even considered in skeptical forums.
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The point is they're accustomed to believing in phenomena much weirder than a spacecraft and to not needing to think about ramifications or explanations of anything. Unless it's like learning you have a new brother that your parents might like more, I don't get the "religious issues" that existence of aliens would provoke.

I can't think of a paranormal phenomenon with less potential ramifications than aliens that are impossible to prove or learn anything about.
 
The Atheist said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
Never been afraid of the unknown?
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Not when it's a UFO scared off the airport because it was too busy...
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Have you ever seen a UFO scared off the airport because it was too busy?

Hunt, please tell me you don't buy into UFOs.
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Of course I do. What's so difficult to "buy into" about unidentified flying objects?

I've seen several. I've even seen unidentified non-flying objects, and as my eyes fail more and more with age, I'll probably see a whole lot more of both in the future.

Were they spaceships filled with little green men?

I'm "highly skeptical" of that.

But I don't know. So I'm not going to make a fool of myself saying that I do.
 
latent aaaack said:
Unless it's like learning you have a new brother that your parents might like more, I don't get the "religious issues" that existence of aliens would provoke.
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That might be a good analogy.

I think a lot of religious people aren't true believers, they just practice it (and lie to themselves) in order to feel good. Seeing a "real" UFO would force them to realize there's no mysterious universe, instead only one based on hard science.

Of course a true believer would be just fine, secure in their faith that God is still in command.
 
firecoins said:
In the days of camera phones, digital camers and camcorders, its really amazing no one has even a grainy photo of it, especially at an airport! Your would figure that there are security cameras looking at the airfield as well as sky in the dirction of takeoffs and landings too!
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As I was scrolling down the thread I was thinking exactly the same thing. No pictures? hmmm, odd.

Another fantastic case where we just have testimonies to rely on, why the hell there's never the "hard evidence" for all of us to examine? :confused:
 
Here are seemingly two independant pictures of the UFO. Too good to be true?. If these are true pics of the object, then the case may be worth paying attention.
 
Hmpf. Pics shown more than 3 weeks after the incident, sent to a UFO nuttiness site by an anonymous person who refuses to state his employer. Hmmm, why am I suspicious?

ETA: If a picture is worth a thousand words, The Atheist is way ahead of me.
 
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