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UFO Delays Shuttle Landing!

Why is the 'debris' moving...???

Does this piece of debris have a perpulsion device???

I was going to make this post with teh exact same title, then I was going to follow up with "Unidentified FALLING Object" stutters shuttle landing.

Although after watching the video several times, I can see the damn thing changing direction...
 
I hope tomorrow to see that this thread has 'taken off', and filled with all kinds of skeptical explainations...

If it came FROM the shuttle, how would it have hit it???

Or did the shuttle bump into 'it'?

Why didn't shuttle radar systems pick it up???

After seeing the video, I want to know how it is able to change direction...
 
King of the Americas said:
Why is the 'debris' moving...???

Does this piece of debris have a perpulsion device???

I was going to make this post with teh exact same title, then I was going to follow up with "Unidentified FALLING Object" stutters shuttle landing.

Although after watching the video several times, I can see the damn thing changing direction...
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Actually, after watching it once, it appeared that the camera observing the object was changing direction...several times. Watching it again confirmed.
 
Its debris from an alien race....but it was made in China. They outsource all their jobs to Asia as well. Damn interstellarization!:jaw-dropp
 
Actually, a NASA spokesperson said this morning, yesterday's debis was a "shim" used to space the heat tiles...

Said piece is said to be some 6 inches long, 2 inches wide and less than a 16th of an inch thick.

Moreover, he said that there was no way to tell how far or close the object was from the shuttle.

WTF!?!?!?

I cry B******T!!!

From what I know, the shuttle has a very capable radar system for avoiding just such debris. Something being able to identify a 16th inch nut from 100 miles away. Even tiny debris travel at orbital speed can cause major problems to a space craft. The onboard radar system can tell pilots 'exactly' where something, as well as how fast it is going in origin to the shuttle, so that they can manuver out of its path.

That this "shim" keeps changing direction is freaking awesome!!!

Moreover, that a piece of orange material sticking out of the black bottom of the shuttle was 'missed' by ground crews is staggering. Supposedly no less than a dozen people go over every inch of the shuttle's heat shield to make sure it is re-entry worthy. And someone 'missed' it...???

Why aren't you skeptics all over this???

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NOW there are MORE "unidentified objects":

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/20/D8K8KG2G1.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20060920/lo_wkmg/9889485

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This stuff is down right amazing to me...

Why didn't we send someone out to try to 'capture' the moving debris, before it DID do some damage???
 
The nasa.gov site has NOTHING on this subject, for review.

No pictures or mention of any kind.

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How can a skeptics board be so silent on this matter???
 
A fiber spacer won't reflect a radar signal. You can go dry yourself off now.
 
Rob Lister said:
Originally Posted by King of the Americas
....Although after watching the video several times, I can see the damn thing changing direction...
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Actually, after watching it once, it appeared that the camera observing the object was changing direction...several times. Watching it again confirmed.
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I don't see it as you do. It looks like the object is changing direction.
 
The camera does move several times. Look at how the background (the earth) also changes its motion and direction relative to the camera. Keep your eye on a single feature, like a gap in the clouds, and you'll easily pick up the motion.

Either the camera is moving or the orbiter is firing its RCS thrusters and changing the orientation of the entire vehicle. Based on how the camera shakes near the end of the video, I would guess the payload bay camera is being moved.
 
The object moves, and THEN the camera moves to follow it.

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More Questions:

How did these objects 'move' away from the shuttle.

How far away from the shuttle was this "shim, when it was caught on video?

The other 3 objects were supposedly rings, and a piece of foil. They were within visible range, in a stable position for time enoguh to capture them on video, and then they 'left'... Under what power did they move, and or did the shuttle move leaving them behind?
 
When shuttle astronauts 'first' reported the encounter, they said, "We aren't joking, but sensors just picked up something bumping into us."

WHY would they report it this way???

"We aren't joking..."

Well, NO KIDDING you aren't joking...when the shuttle bumps into somethhing or vise versa, it isn't a joking matter. However, the tone of his voice was that of, 'you aren't gonna believe this but...'

This event has my mind racing.

How can you guys be SO non-shallant about this???
 
King of the Americas said:
When shuttle astronauts 'first' reported the encounter, they said, "We aren't joking, but sensors just picked up something bumping into us."

WHY would they report it this way???

"We aren't joking..."

Well, NO KIDDING you aren't joking...when the shuttle bumps into somethhing or vise versa, it isn't a joking matter. However, the tone of his voice was that of, 'you aren't gonna believe this but...'

This event has my mind racing.

How can you guys be SO non-shallant about this???
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You mean nonchalant?

Riddle me this: If you discovered that your space craft had half-exploded and was leaking precious oxygen and power into space, and the chances of your survival were approaching 0%, would you have informed ground control with these famous words of calm understatement:

Houston, we have a problem.
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Or would you scream hysterically like a girl? Which attitude seems more likely to produce a positive outcome?

What you are uselessly bumping your brain against is the collective concept of discipline, training and dedication. Bit of a puzzle, isn't it?
 
King of the Americas said:
Why is the 'debris' moving...???

Does this piece of debris have a perpulsion device???

I was going to make this post with teh exact same title, then I was going to follow up with "Unidentified FALLING Object" stutters shuttle landing.

Although after watching the video several times, I can see the damn thing changing direction...
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Sheesh. Sounds like you're expecting the thing to build a pyramid in your backyard for you.

It's "moving" because of Newton's first law of motion. Put briefly, an object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. So it's traveling 17,500 miles an hour because nothing is preventing it from doing so.
 
Jocko,

You are making my case FOR me.

The object isn't just 'moving' but also changing direction, while doing so.

If 'I' were a shuttle boardie, and I saw that sensors had just picked up that something 'bumped into us.', I wouldn't report to NASA, "We not joking but...."

Did you hear the astronau's initial reporting?

When Jim Lovell reported that they had a problem, it wasn't as ground control was thinking that he was just kidding around.

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Would you care to take a poke at these questions:


How did these objects 'move' away from the shuttle.

How far away from the shuttle was this "shim, when it was caught on video?

The other 3 objects were supposedly rings, and a piece of foil. They were within visible range, in a stable position for time enoguh to capture them on video, and then they 'left'... Under what power did they move, and or did the shuttle move leaving them behind?
 
King of the Americas said:
Jocko,

You are making my case FOR me.

The object isn't just 'moving' but also changing direction, while doing so.
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Er, no it wasn't, you simply thought it was. If there was even a tiny differential in the speed - the shuttle's 400 mile orbit runs over 17k mph, remember - so if it "changed direction," it would vanish very quickly.

Yet it did not. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.

If 'I' were a shuttle boardie, and I saw that sensors had just picked up that something 'bumped into us.', I wouldn't report to NASA, "We not joking but...."

Did you hear the astronau's initial reporting?
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No, I didn't. I didn't hear what the conductor on my train said to his wife over coffee this morning, either. So what? He did his job today, just as the astronauts did theirs. I don't see what your credentials would be to posit a serious critricism of their demeanor, attitude or skills. I mean, come on, you couldn't even handle 120 seconds with Howard Stern, let alone a global broadcast from orbit.

When Jim Lovell reported that they had a problem, it wasn't as ground control was thinking that he was just kidding around.
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Really? You were there?


Would you care to take a poke at these questions:


How did these objects 'move' away from the shuttle.
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The same way you'd "move" down an elevator shaft if you were pushed down one - by the exertion of force. See Newton's first.

How far away from the shuttle was this "shim, when it was caught on video?
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Last I heard, no one was certain owing to the reflectivity making it impossible to determine size and distance of the object. Which is also why the more eager conspiracy theorists in the world - ahem - would be eager to seize on such uncertainty to press a tinfoil beanie agenda.

The other 3 objects were supposedly rings, and a piece of foil. They were within visible range, in a stable position for time enoguh to capture them on video, and then they 'left'... Under what power did they move, and or did the shuttle move leaving them behind?
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Duh, the same power upon which they appeared. You wouldn't stop at the third floor on your way down the elevator shaft, would you?

Motion is relative. There is no absolute answer because there is no absolute point of reference, just arbitrary ones. Long story short, the debris was ejected from the shuttle or station by some mild force, and it continued to move slowly (relative to the shuttle) away until it was gone. No mystery, no aliens, no friggin' kidding.

Seriously, read up on Newton's big 3 before answering. This is Junior High stuff.
 
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Jocko,

-The object is said by NASA to hoover, between the shuttle and Earth.

-The camera that caught the image HAD to move consstantly to keep the object within the viewfinder.

-The 3 objects from the second day, weren't moving to or 'away' from the shuttle at any consistant velocity.

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You personal attacks on my character, or ability to ascertain mood or tone are uncalled for.

'I' DID hear the astronaut report the 'bump'. As well, I have heard via the history channel, Jim Lovell's report to Houston. Those two reports from space carried as different a tone as any I have heard. One was said with a sense of urgency, and the other was said in a light-hearted manner suggestive that a punchline would follow, or that someone listening would think he was actually joking...thus the quote, "This is not a joke, but..."

Why don't YOU do some research on this topic, and THEN offer a rebuttle?

Currently, you have nothing creative or constructive to offer this discussion.
 
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