Typical Trump Supporters

Ladewig said:
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As for your headline, I am doubtful that these are typical Trump supporters. If you have evidence of your assertion please post it.
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Just in case anyone is interested, there was a good piece on the ‘Fresh Air’ just yesterday on how Donald Trump is very popular with white nationalist groups, and that the core of the Trump supporters are such individuals.

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/03/43719...-groups-found-their-candidate-in-donald-trump

How White Nationalist Groups Found Their Candidate In Donald Trump

This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. When Donald Trump announced his candidacy, my guest, Evan Osnos, was reporting on extremist white rights groups. What he quickly discovered was that Trump's anti-immigration message was resonating with these groups. Osnos writes, quote, "ever since the Tea Party's peak in 2010 and its fade, citizens on the American far-right - patriot militias, border vigilantes, white supremacists - have searched for a standard-bearer, and now they'd found him. In the past, white nationalists, as they call themselves, had described Trump as a Jew lover, but the new tone of his campaign was a revelation," unquote. Osnos's article about Trump's white nationalist support was recently published in The New Yorker, where he's a staff writer covering politics and foreign affairs. Osnos was based in Beijing covering China for eight years. He returned to the U.S. two years ago. His book "Age Of Ambition: Chasing Fortune, Truth And Faith In The New China" won the 2014 National Book Award in nonfiction. Let's start with a clip from Trump's June 16 speech announcing his candidacy. These comments about Mexicans are an example of what sparked the approval of many white nationalists.

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TRUMP: It's true, and these aren't the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards, and they tell us what we're getting.

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OSNOS: We're not saying, by any means, that every Trump supporter is a white nationalist. In fact, what you see - Trump has this vast range of different kinds of supporters. You know, he's leading in all of the categories of Republican voters. So he leads on - he leads among men. He leads among women. He leads among moderate Republicans, and he leads among conservative Republicans. But what you see when you drill down on the numbers is that the broad majority of his support comes from two pools. And one pool are Americans without a college degree, and the other pool are Americans who feel that immigration threatens the future of the country.

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Crossbow said:
Just in case anyone is interested, there was a good piece on the ‘Fresh Air’ just yesterday on how Donald Trump is very popular with white nationalist groups, and that the core of the Trump supporters are such individuals.
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The core of Trump supporters are white nationalist groups?
I don't see the story supporting that claim.

Also, the issue that I was addressing in my post had to do with violence. I was questioning whether these two violent racists were "typical Trump supporters." I see nothing in the story showing that violence against minorities is a typical trait among Trump supporters.
 
Ladewig said:
The core of Trump supporters are white nationalist groups?
I don't see the story supporting that claim.
Oh really? Well then, perhaps you missed this bit:

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And so 12 days after Donald Trump announced his candidacy, the Daily Stormer, which is the largest neo-Nazi news site in America, endorsed him for president. And it said to its readers, we generally do not take a position in politics. We don't think politics has anything for us, but Donald Trump is saying the right things. He's talking about things in a way that we agree with, and for that reason, we're throwing our support behind him. And that, for me, was a signal that something was going on that I hadn't anticipated.

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Also, the issue that I was addressing in my post had to do with violence. I was questioning whether these two violent racists were "typical Trump supporters." I see nothing in the story showing that violence against minorities is a typical trait among Trump supporters.
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Well, I seriously doubt that one can get accurate statistics from people who want to be violent towards minorities or anyone else.
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Crossbow said:
Ladewig said:
The core of Trump supporters are white nationalist groups?
I don't see the story supporting that claim.
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Oh really? Well then, perhaps you missed this bit:

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And so 12 days after Donald Trump announced his candidacy, the Daily Stormer, which is the largest neo-Nazi news site in America, endorsed him for president. And it said to its readers, we generally do not take a position in politics. We don't think politics has anything for us, but Donald Trump is saying the right things. He's talking about things in a way that we agree with, and for that reason, we're throwing our support behind him. And that, for me, was a signal that something was going on that I hadn't anticipated.

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Even if 100% of Neo-Nazis support Trump that doesn't necessarily mean that Neo-Nazis are represented in large enough numbers to be considered typical Trump supporters.

About 40% of the population identifies as Republican or Republican leaning. If Trump's numbers were around 25% (I.e. 25% of Republicans or Republican leaners). That means 10% of the population was supporting Trump a few weeks ago. If there are ~240 million Americans over 18, then we have 24 million Trump supporters.

So the question now becomes if you have a group of 24 million people, how large does a segment with common traits have to be before you can say that this particular segment "represents the typical supporter." 70%? 60%? 50%? 40%?

The second question is how many Neo-Nazis are there in the U.S.


Well, I seriously doubt that one can get accurate statistics from people who want to be violent towards minorities or anyone else.
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I concede that issue. While some folks might be prepared to argue otherwise, we can, for purposes of this thread, argue that self-identifying White Nationalists [ETA: more specifically, drunken White Nationalists] can be defined as violent enough to physically attack a minority person.
 
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Even if 100% of Neo-Nazis support Trump that doesn't necessarily mean that Neo-Nazis are represented in large enough numbers to be considered typical Trump supporters.
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A good enough reason for me to confirm that Trump is a POS that doesn't deserve to be President. If he's the type of person who would garner the support of such a hateful, vile group of idiots, he's not the type of person who should run the country.
 
I don't quite buy the "Core of Trump Supporters are White Natiionalist/Racists" argument yet, but I do think that Trump seems to have no problem with accepting their support and welcoming them into his "movement" speaks tons about the political ethics of Donald Trump...or rather, his total lack of political ethics.

Laedwig:I think that the time for an intellectually detached view of Trump has passed. The man has got to be stopped.
 
NoahFence said:
A good enough reason for me to confirm that Trump is a POS that doesn't deserve to be President. If he's the type of person who would garner the support of such a hateful, vile group of idiots, he's not the type of person who should run the country.
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THIS.
 
NoahFence said:
A good enough reason for me to confirm that Trump is a POS that doesn't deserve to be President. If he's the type of person who would garner the support of such a hateful, vile group of idiots, he's not the type of person who should run the country.
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Cherry on top: His response was, "people like me across the board," and "I'll repudiate him if it makes you feel better." He's one sick pup
 
My apologies if this bit of hilarity was previously posted:
Is there a profile of the average Trump supporter?
Big Foot enthusiasts?
X-files fans?
People that religiously watch the Apprentice and threaten to sue Comcast Xfinity if a storm disrupts an episode?
People who don't wait to hear the whole answer to a question they themselves ask because they think they already know the answer and are already mentally on to the next topic?
Self-centered Xenophiles?
People who think the Great Wall of China was a simple answer to illegal immigration into the People's Republic?
People who are not 100% completely convinced that Hawaii is a state in the US?
Chia Pet collectors? (Google Chia Pet, you'll get it)
People who think that the only thing missing from the Taj Mahal is the giant words "Taj Ma" in metallic gold adorning the front of it?
People who think that tipping your waitress with advice on getting a better job rather than giving any actual money is "Classy"?
People who don't believe in the concept of a "Filter"?
And last, People who will look at this list and not see any humor or sarcasm in it.
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:sdl:

There's a whole slew of answers and images on the web page.
 
logger said:
Ginger it is well established your side has the low information voter. Conservatives and republicans in general are the most informed voter. ;)
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You bet. For instance, they're well informed that Obama was born in Kenya. They're also well informed that Iraq had WMDs.
 
That is hilarious irony, logger. Who could possibly represent the low information voter any more clearly than Trump supporters?
 
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