Truthers think Americans are lazy and stupid

[BigAl]

Speak only for yourself. You can consider yourself the "idealistic fringe" versus the "dull mass" of people who are all in for idealistic absence or inertia. See how many people are against iraq war and find the percentage of them who actually go to the streets protest, march, and wave banners.

You don't seem to understand how the masses work parky, you seem to judge it from your own actions, which inevitably leads to irrealistic conclusions.

Where were you on Feb 15, 2003?

Parky and I froze our asses off in the NYC protest, along with several hundred thousand others and millions, world-wide.

The February 15, 2003 anti-war protest was a coordinated day of protests across the world against the imminent invasion of Iraq. Millions of people protested in approximately 800 cities around the world. According to BBC News, between six and ten million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of the 15th and 16th; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million.[1][2]

Some of the largest protests took place in Europe. The protest in Rome involved around 3 million people, and is listed in the 2004 Guinness Book of World Records as the largest anti-war rally in history.[3] Opposition to the war was highest in the Middle East, although protests there were relatively small.[clarification needed] Mainland China was the only major region not to see any protests, but small demonstrations attended mainly by foreign students were seen later.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_15,_2003_anti-war_protest​

 

[fallout]

I know it BigAl, still my point is that the number of people who position themselves as anti iraq war is larger than that by orders of magnitude. If you see a number of activists for one cause, you can safely say that the actual number of people supporting that cause, is insanely higher.

 

[kookbreaker]

I marched in a Mumia Abu-Jamal protest in 1999.

 

[Thunder]

I know...I know. But hey...I was young and idealistic. It was the thing to do. My school sent 20 buses of students!!!!

 

[kookbreaker]

I know...I know. But hey...I was young and idealistic. It was the thing to do. My school sent 20 buses of students!!!!

They sent them?

 

[PhantomWolf]

I marched in a Mumia Abu-Jamal protest in 1999.

Looking through the Trial history it seems to me that some prosecutors in the US are blood crazed and out for revenge. They have a conviction, the guy is going to be in Jail for the rest of his natural, and yet they still want their pound of flesh and to give him the needle.

Doesn't make sense to me, lock him up, throw away the key and spend your time dealing with new bad guys instead of tying up the Court's time with one and dealt with cases.

 

[Edx]

Looking through the Trial history it seems to me that some prosecutors in the US are blood crazed and out for revenge. They have a conviction, the guy is going to be in Jail for the rest of his natural, and yet they still want their pound of flesh and to give him the needle.
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I say keep him alive, he wants to die anyway. Yea its expensive but then not being executed is probably more of a deterrent to terrorists than being executed.

 

[Travis]

I know it BigAl, still my point is that the number of people who position themselves as anti iraq war is larger than that by orders of magnitude. If you see a number of activists for one cause, you can safely say that the actual number of people supporting that cause, is insanely higher.

Well duh. I personally supported the Iraq War but I sure wasn't going to any pro-war rallies that were likely to be loaded with all kinds of kooks I'd rather not associate with.

Looking through the Trial history it seems to me that some prosecutors in the US are blood crazed and out for revenge. They have a conviction, the guy is going to be in Jail for the rest of his natural, and yet they still want their pound of flesh and to give him the needle.

Doesn't make sense to me, lock him up, throw away the key and spend your time dealing with new bad guys instead of tying up the Court's time with one and dealt with cases.

In my experience, going back to my school days, the people who protested for him weren't so much arguing against a death sentence so much as they thought he was actually innocent.....or just "justified" in doing what he did.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

From the title of this thread:

Truthers think . . .

I think I see your problem, here.

 

[DC]

Truthers think Americans are lazy and stupid.

that aint true or what?

 

[PhantomWolf]

In my experience, going back to my school days, the people who protested for him weren't so much arguing against a death sentence so much as they thought he was actually innocent.....or just "justified" in doing what he did.

It wasn't so much the protesters, it is the courts. The Court of Appeal overturned the Death Sentence and told them to redo that part if they wanted to re-instate it, if they did nothing the sentence would have been commuted to life. Instead of retrying the punishment phase the DA appealed the ruling trying to get the Death Penalty reintroduced. To me that seems a little over the top. If you truly believe in your case then retrying the Sentencing will result in the same sentence, if you don't want to spend the money on a sentencing retrial, why spend it on Appeals? Besides, either way, he's locked up for the rest of his life so he's no longer a threat to society.

 

[Simon39759]

Truthers think Americans are lazy and stupid

Well, they can't be wrong about everything.
Zing!

 

[Travis]

It wasn't so much the protesters, it is the courts. The Court of Appeal overturned the Death Sentence and told them to redo that part if they wanted to re-instate it, if they did nothing the sentence would have been commuted to life. Instead of retrying the punishment phase the DA appealed the ruling trying to get the Death Penalty reintroduced. To me that seems a little over the top. If you truly believe in your case then retrying the Sentencing will result in the same sentence, if you don't want to spend the money on a sentencing retrial, why spend it on Appeals? Besides, either way, he's locked up for the rest of his life so he's no longer a threat to society.

I agree that locking him up should be good enough.