Truthers: Do you like America?

[NeoRicen]

They did better than the English did anyway in using the ANZAC as cannon fodder.

Gallipoli, anyone?

Just to be completely fair the English suffered a hell of alot of casualties in that Battle too.

Us ANZACs tend to present the operation as being England shoving us out there, not exactly fair to the tens of thousands of Brits and Frenchmen who dies.

If I recall correctly British casualties are actually alot higher than the ANZACs (probably not per capita mind you).

 

[Mobyseven]

Just to clarify, I am aware that Britain also suffered casualties and that there is more to the story than I presented. It was meant as a glib one-liner that admittedly got out of hand.

Having said that, cannon fodder wouldn't be too far off what the ANZAC troops were in that campaign.

 

[MG1962]

And from an Australian point of view, completing our mission would have actually led to something valuable being achieved. The poor British and French died like flies trying to take a hill Archi Baba, which was thought over looked the straight and forts and would allow the battleships to fight their way through

After the war it was discovered Archi Baba does not command the view they thought and in fact that whole element of the invasion was a complete waste of time.

One up side for us ANZACS, while we were mucking around in Turkey we were not suffering on the Western Front. During the same period the casualty rate was three times higher in France.

 

[gumboot]

If I recall correctly British casualties are actually alot higher than the ANZACs (probably not per capita mind you).

Of the 141,000 allied casualties, 73,000 were British, 28,000 Australian, 23,000 French, 7,500 New Zealanders, 4,700 Indian and under 200 from Newfoundland.

-Gumboot

 

[gumboot]

One up side for us ANZACS, while we were mucking around in Turkey we were not suffering on the Western Front. During the same period the casualty rate was three times higher in France.

Unfortunately we didn't miss out on the Battle of the Somme, which resulted in comparable casualties to the entire Gallipoli campaign for the ANZACs.

-Gumboot

 

[MG1962]

Unfortunately we didn't miss out on the Battle of the Somme, which resulted in comparable casualties to the entire Gallipoli campaign for the ANZACs.

Which just goes to show war in any form sucks. At least with ANZAC day comming up, we can remember these heros and say a quiet thank you

 

[gumboot]

Which just goes to show war in any form sucks.

Yup. But what really sucks is sometimes it's better than the alternative.

-Gumboot

 

[Architect]

They did better than the English did anyway in using the ANZAC as cannon fodder.

Gallipoli, anyone?

I hesitate to say this, given the context of the quote and Moby's subsequent apology, but one thing I hate about the US (and to a lesser extent some other countries) is dafties who failed geography and don't understand the difference between the UK (or Britain, at a push) and England. I am given to believe that it irritates at least another 7.5 million people too.

 

[Mobyseven]

I hesitate to say this, given the context of the quote and Moby's subsequent apology, but one thing I hate about the US (and to a lesser extent some other countries) is dafties who failed geography and don't understand the difference between the UK (or Britain, at a push) and England. I am given to believe that it irritates at least another 7.5 million people too.

Point well taken. Was a mistake I don't usually make. In fact a mistake I usually pick others up on.

 

[MG1962]

Yup. But what really sucks is sometimes it's better than the alternative.

What a good old Bledisloe Cup match

 

[MG1962]

Point well taken. Was a mistake I don't usually make. In fact a mistake I usually pick others up on.

Its just God getting even at Easter over your avatar

 

[skepticalcriticalguy]

That would be the Starr Report.

10,000 pages of Starr shadowboxing with Clinton and avoiding investigating his real crimes.

 

[The Silver Shadow]

10,000 pages of Starr shadowboxing with Clinton and avoiding investigating his real crimes.

I will partly agree with you there...

 

[Christophera]

This is a question for truthers.

What do you like about America?

It seems to me that many of you hate almost everything about America, from our military, our tax system, our media, our governmant, etc.

So what do you actually LIKE about the USA?

Parky,

For a critical thinker, you should define things more critically,

America is a society

USA is a social contract.

I more than love America and see tremendous value in the social contract, I love what it can do fo us IF we keep its purposes and principles clear and dear.

I'm quite upset that Americans are not aware of how their social contract has been compromised recently or how that was done.

 

[Dr Adequate]

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It's funny how this sort of thing only happens in cartoons drawn by wingnuts, and in the fantasy world in your head.

In the real world, trying to avert an expensive, bloody and disastrous mistake might almost be seen as a token of esteem.

For example, if I loved someone, I would try to disuade them from shooting themselves repeatedly in the foot, rather than cheering them on.

 

[g4macdad]

It's funny how this sort of thing only happens in cartoons drawn by wingnuts, and in the fantasy world in your head.

In the real world, trying to avert an expensive, bloody and disastrous mistake might almost be seen as a token of esteem.

For example, if I loved someone, I would try to disuade them from shooting themselves repeatedly in the foot, rather than cheering them on.

Well said!

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[g4macdad]

This is one thing I REALLY like about America.

http://wewillnotbesilenced.cf.huffingtonpost.com/non_violent_resistance.swf

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[PhantomWolf]

Yup. But what really sucks is sometimes it's better than the alternative.

Unfortunately with regards to WW1, the alternative wasn't at all sucky, and nearly every major war since has had its roots in the mess that WW1 created, including the current messes.

 

[Andúril]

It's funny how this sort of thing only happens in cartoons drawn by wingnuts, and in the fantasy world in your head.

Believe me, here where I live these things happen every now and then, more or less directly. The local breed of twoofers usually carries not only the general properties of all twoofers, but also an irrational hatred towards America. Some can mask it better, some can not - but their attitude is as clear as their woo generally can be.

 

[g4macdad]

Believe me, here where I live these things happen every now and then, more or less directly. The local breed of twoofers usually carries not only the general properties of all twoofers, but also an irrational hatred towards America. Some can mask it better, some can not - but their attitude is as clear as their woo generally can be.

More anti-AntiWar hogwash.

Our war is American, and you are America haters because you oppose it. PUH-LEASE.

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